Re: [ARSCLIST] Stereo records.

[steven c <stevenc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Alec McLane wrote:
> > At 08:51 PM 6/17/2006, seva wrote:
> > >At 8:10 PM -0400 6/17/06, steven c wrote:
> > >>Wonder if John Cage sued over the editing
> > >>of his
> > >>  > "4'33"?
> > >
> > >
> > >there was a recent case where someone excerpted a recording of the
> > >4'33", and attributed it to cage, but did not ask permission, nor
> > >pay royalties.  they were sued successfully by the publisher.  and
> > >as it should be.
> >
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> > Not from a recording, actually, and the suit was settled out of
> > court. The composer was Mike Batt, who simply credited a 1-minute
> > silent track on his album, Classical Graffiti, to Batt/Cage.
> > Here's an informative Wikipedia entry on the piece:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%2733%22
> > which points to this BBC story on the lawsuit:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2276621.stm
> > Alec
> Needless to say, I was kidding when I referred to a jukebox disc of blank
> grooves as being an edited version of the Cage piece and I'm sure Mike
Batt was
> as well. Copyright lawyers ain't got no sense of humor (duck, Lenny!).
Didn't
> the "Kazoophony" album feature a twelve-second version of  4'33" and
justify it
> on the grounds that a twelve-second sample was allowable with no payment
(under
> whatever laws applied in Canada at the time)?
>
What I'm more worried about, given the agressive attitude of CRIA, is
this! If I'm sitting around the house NOT singing or playing...do I
not infringe on the copyright of Cage's work every four minute and
thirty-three seconds?! I'm running up a huge royalty bill as I sit
here and type...

Steven C. Barr