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Re: [AV Media Matters] more CD labelling

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Apogee, TDK and Mitsui all market pens for marking CD-Rs.
The question of which media is "best" is not easily answered.

To quote Mike Richter:

I cannot offer an answer.

The problem is that the blanks can be of whatever quality you choose - if
your recorder does not write them well, you are out of luck. There are some
bad lines, but let's put them aside. Let me also give you my own experience.

I have one player with a strong preference for Kodak media. Only one of my
four writers likes those blanks and it performs better on those than on any
others I have fed it. The other three are marginal or worse on Kodak, but
they like Mitsui and Taiyo-Yuden. An inexpensive line is made in the U.S.
by cd-recordable.com and they have proved as good for me in three writers
as the name brands. Specifically, T-Y gives me the smallest number of
correctable errors in my Ricoh 7040s, where it just outperforms
cd-recordable. In my Plextor, the situation is reversed. Any of those
combinations written at 4x is very fine and suitable for mastering a
pressed disc, but written at 2x each has more correctable errors. Of the
media I use, only the Kodak in the Plextor, Yamaha or Ricoh (7040) has
uncorrectable errors; in the older Ricoh (6201s), the count of correctable
errors on any medium except the Kodak is marginal.

All of which says: find what works for you and stick with it. Keep your
fingers crossed that the manufacturer does not reformulate or that if he
does he lets you know before you buy a batch and discover it for yourself.
Doug Pomeroy   pomeroyaudio@att.net
Audio Restoration [CEDAR] & Remastering
From: Daniel D'Elia <DanDElia@msn.com>
To: AV Media Matters <AV-Media-Matters@topica.com>
Subject: [AV Media Matters] more CD labelling
Date: Sat, May 12, 2001, 11:41 AM

I'm in the middle of transferring dozens of 1/4" open reel tapes
from the'50's-'80's and I noticed the recent debate on using certain
pens to label CD-R discs and the possible consequences.  Could
someone give me more info on which pens are NO GOOD and which
manufacturers' discs are more susceptible to being destroyed by
inks?  I've been using TDK data discs, which have what looks to be a
translucent coating on the top, after I got a bunch of coasters from
our friends at SONY.  I'm also fond of HHB discs.  I use Sharpies to
mark the discs, but that was before I came in at the tail end of the
discussion. I'm hoping I did not create a sleeping giant.  Any
recommendation in regards to brands of discs to use/avoid and brands
of pens to use/avoid would be greatly appreciated; some of the tapes
I have are so brittle that I'm only getting one pass out of them!
Thanks so much for your time!

Dan DElia@msn.com

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