Re: [ARSCLIST] the origin of skratchin'

[Tom Fine <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

No, pulling the needle across an LP is not "scratchin'" in the rap/hip-hop form. "Skratchin'" (which 
I guess I mis-spelled before) is, well ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scratching
note -- whacky-packia entry definitely not fact-checked by me but it seems plausible.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Hartov" <alexander.hartov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] the origin of scratchin'


> I don't know about the use of scratching in hip-hop, however the  sound of scratching records goes 
> back much further than that.  It was  used, for example on the LP issues of the Monty Python 
> (Nobody  expects the inquisition...) and before that on other comedy records  in France (Pierre Dac 
> et Louis Rognoni ...).  The idea is definitely  not to be credited to hip-hop.
>
> Alex
>
> On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Andes, Donald wrote:
>
> > Hey Tom,
> >
> > Grandwizard Theodore is most commonly credited with creating
> > "scratching".
> >
> > Legend has it happened when he was playing records in his home.  When his
> > mom came in to talk to him, he paused the record on a spinning platter
> > so he could hear her. When he released the record, it happened to  be at
> > a drum transient, and taking notice, he replicated it; and scratching
> > was born. Grandmaster Flash (a mentor of Theodore's) incorporated and
> > popularized scratching, but it came to international audiences  primarily
> > through Herbie Hancock's song "Rock-It" which featured scratching by
> > Grand Mixer DXT.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard_Theodore
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mixer_DXT
> >
> > Don Andes
> > EMI Music
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:59 PM
> > To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ARSCLIST] the origin of scratchin'
> >
> > In my never-ending quest for the most trivial music knowledge on the
> > planet, I have this question ...
> >
> > Who was the first rap/hip-hop artist to use a turntable, record and
> > cartridge as a rhythm instrument, ie "scratchin'"? My guess would be
> > Grand Master Flash's DJ or Run-DMC's DJ, but I admit not knowing the
> > full genesis of rap.
> >
> > Thanks in advance if you know the answer!
> >
> > -- Tom Fine
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