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Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
Wow, I wish I was coming to the conference. Cannot justify the travel and costs for a part-time
business, yet. Will a recording of this panel be available later?
-- Tom Fine
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From: "Casey, Michael T" <micasey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
Well stated, Andy.
This is precisely the topic to be addressed in the ARSC Technical
Committee's session on Thursday at the conference in Milwaukee:
SMALL SCALE AUDIO PRESERVATION STORAGE AND MANAGEMENT - ISSUES &
SOLUTIONS
Andy Kolovos, "The Best-You-Can-With-What-You-Have Practices:
Digital Audio Preservation in a Small Non-Profit Institution. "
Adrian Cosentini, "The Bits That Bite at the New York Philharmonic:
The Long-Term Storage Conundrum. "
John Spencer, "The Transitional Repository-A Safety Net for Small
Digital
Preservation Projects."
Comments by respondent Jon Dunn.
We are not promising foolproof answers at this stage, but we will frame
questions and brainstorm some possible solutions, and are thinking that
this may be an ongoing project for the ARSC TC. Hope to see some of you
who are interested in this topic at the conference.
Mike
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Mike Casey
Associate Director for Recording Services
Archives of Traditional Music
Indiana University
(812)855-8090
Co-chair, ARSC Technical Committee
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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of andy kolovos
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:44 AM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
Hi--
While I fully agree with what Tom and others are saying regarding
managed storage, there's another level here that you guys seem simply to
be dismissing--what do individuals and institutions who lack funds do to
manage digital assets on a short-to-medium term basis? I still feel
external HDD has a place in a lower cost, comprehensive digital asset
management plan for people and organizations with limited funding and
access to technology.
Local historical societies here in VT are generating digital image files
(for example) up the wazoo. As their oral history projects move into
the born digital domain, they're accumulating digital audio files as
well. Most of these organizations lack any budget outside of good will.
What would you have them do with these materials? Not do interviews?
Not scan old images? Better to recommend a combo of optical disc and
multiple external HDD than have their files only sitting on the system
drive of their 8 year old Compaq or on a pile of Staples CD-Rs alone.
While managed, redundant, backed up, server-based storage is an ideal
and a goal, we as a field need to come up with some acceptable second
tier recommendations as well.
Andy
Rob Poretti wrote:
Thanks Tom... You put a "grimmer" face on it, but you are 100%
correct.
Rob Poretti
Sascom - Toronto
vox.905.825.5373 fax.905.469.1129 cel.905.580.2467
www.sascom.com www.cube-tec.com
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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
Sent: March 26, 2007 5:49 PM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
I hope Richard and/or Parker and/or Spec Bros. jump in here.
The ONLY answer is managed and
constantly migrated storage. You simply cannot live by the
old "put it on a shelf in a clean, cool
room" idea anymore. Digital storage must be in constant
motion -- literally since hard drives have
been known to fail or never start up again if left idle on a
shelf (ask around Hollywood, everyone
has a horror story or two). You have to plan to have a
"living" hard drive array that is redundant,
preferably with a constantly mirrored clone at a different
location, and plan on swapping out drives
every XX hours of use or at worst when they inevitably fail.
There are firms that do this on an
out-source basis, I think. I believe the 90's dot-bomb term
was "storage farms." Some of them are
actually located in old bomb shelters and missle bunkers.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "andy kolovos" <akolovos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
Lauren,
As a short-to-medium-term storage solution--and as a part of a more
comprehensive
approach--multiple HDD is the best most of us can do at
this point in time.
I prefer Maxtor and Western Digital drives, and I favor those that
come in enclosures that offer
FireWire and an on/off switch. Very vexing to have no
on/off switch.
In some cases it can be more cost effective to purchase Maxtor/WD
internal drives, reliable
external enclosures and build them yourself. I've had good
luck with the "Neptune" line of
enclosures from Other World Computing
(http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/add-ons-and-hubs/encl
osure-kits) and have heard good
things about their "Mercury Elite" enclosures as well.
As others have mentioned, just like Coco Puffs are part of a complete
breakfast that includes
toast, juice and etc., external HDD is part of comprehensive,
lower-cost storage
approach that
includes optical disc and linear tape.
Not all of us can swing a RAID array. Do the best you can with what
you have.
best,
andy
--
Andy Kolovos
Archivist/Folklorist
Vermont Folklife Center
3 Court Street ; P.O. Box 442
Middlebury, VT 05753
(802) 388-4964
akolovos @ vermontfolklifecenter.org
http://www.vermontfolklifecenter.org
--
Andy Kolovos
Archivist/Folklorist
Vermont Folklife Center
3 Court Street ; P.O. Box 442
Middlebury, VT 05753
(802) 388-4964
akolovos @ vermontfolklifecenter.org
http://www.vermontfolklifecenter.org