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Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
I'm with Andy on this 100%. I was at a conference a few weeks ago and
the buzz now is Trusted Digital Repositories and furthermore, the
certification of TDRs. There is already a two-tiered system developing
where there are those with the expertise and money to store digital data
in properly and those that can't. For the latter, outsourcing the
storage to OCLC isn't really an option--it's just too expensive and
homebrewed solutions (Costco RAID) aren't going to impress funders. I'm
guessing that in a couple of years if you don't have a certified TDR you
aren't going to get grants. And that's a shame, because there is a lot
of content out there that is at risk held by institutions that won't
ever be able to afford to build (and maintain) a TDR.
I think the solution is regional, consortial, or discipline-based
networks where the little folks can park their data cheaply or for free,
but we aren't there yet and it will be years before we are there. Until
then, people need options. I'm not in love with CD-R (or LTO--it's tape
for heaven's sake) and storing hard drives on shelves can't be the whole
solution, but I think that some combination of these are a reasonable
option. If a combination of these can get an institution through the
next ten years until they've got someplace to park their data online in
a system that is monitoring data and verifying checksums, etc., then great.
andy kolovos wrote:
While I fully agree with what Tom and others are saying regarding
managed storage, there's another level here that you guys seem simply
to be dismissing--what do individuals and institutions who lack funds
do to manage digital assets on a short-to-medium term basis? I still
feel external HDD has a place in a lower cost, comprehensive digital
asset management plan for people and organizations with limited
funding and access to technology.
Local historical societies here in VT are generating digital image
files (for example) up the wazoo. As their oral history projects move
into the born digital domain, they're accumulating digital audio files
as well. Most of these organizations lack any budget outside of good
will. What would you have them do with these materials? Not do
interviews? Not scan old images? Better to recommend a combo of
optical disc and multiple external HDD than have their files only
sitting on the system drive of their 8 year old Compaq or on a pile of
Staples CD-Rs alone.
While managed, redundant, backed up, server-based storage is an ideal
and a goal, we as a field need to come up with some acceptable second
tier recommendations as well.
Rob Poretti wrote:
Thanks Tom... You put a "grimmer" face on it, but you are 100% correct.
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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
Sent: March 26, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
I hope Richard and/or Parker and/or Spec Bros. jump in here. The
ONLY answer is managed and constantly migrated storage. You simply
cannot live by the old "put it on a shelf in a clean, cool room"
idea anymore. Digital storage must be in constant motion --
literally since hard drives have been known to fail or never start
up again if left idle on a shelf (ask around Hollywood, everyone has
a horror story or two). You have to plan to have a "living" hard
drive array that is redundant, preferably with a constantly mirrored
clone at a different location, and plan on swapping out drives every
XX hours of use or at worst when they inevitably fail. There are
firms that do this on an out-source basis, I think. I believe the
90's dot-bomb term was "storage farms." Some of them are actually
located in old bomb shelters and missle bunkers.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message ----- From: "andy kolovos"
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hard disk drives and DAT
Lauren,this point in time.
As a short-to-medium-term storage solution--and as a part of a more
approach--multiple HDD is the best most of us can do at
I prefer Maxtor and Western Digital drives, and I favor those that
come in enclosures that offeron/off switch.
FireWire and an on/off switch. Very vexing to have no
In some cases it can be more cost effective to purchase Maxtor/WD
internal drives, reliableluck with the "Neptune" line of
external enclosures and build them yourself. I've had good
enclosures from Other World Computing
things about their "Mercury Elite" enclosures as well.approach that
As others have mentioned, just like Coco Puffs are part of a
complete breakfast that includes
toast, juice and etc., external HDD is part of comprehensive,
includes optical disc and linear tape.
Not all of us can swing a RAID array. Do the best you can with what
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