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Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking (serious)



I use stuff found at Toys-R-Resources. They have a plastic clay that I use the way others use duct tape. It can hold slices together and fill in the gaps with easily tracked silences. I also have mealted grease pencil and used it as a filller.

I suspect we all have micro chemistry labs and use them as instict and second nature dictate.

Steve Smolian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine" <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking (serious)



Hi Steve:

Yes, all of what you say is absolutely true! And moreso with LPs because of smaller grooves (although disco singles have the widest/deepest grooves of any LP since the advent of 0.7 mil stylii). Like I said, we were shocked (shocked!) that it worked.

By the way, I'd be reluctant to use real-deal Crazy Glue on shellac. No chemistry facts to back me up, but since shellac seems more fragile and "softer," I'd worry that Crazy Glue would eat away the edge on which it was applied and thus assure the "pie slice" wouldn't fit correctly. Might be a phantom menace ...

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven C. Barr(x)" <stevenc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking (serious)



----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine" <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
In another case, I was doing a job transferring a large collection of 12"
dance-mix singles for a DJ
(he was going all-digital, actually using his iPods as the players). A couple
of the records were
cracked or chipped on the edges. In one case, we found the pie-shaped slice
that broke out of the
edge. I still can't believe this worked, but we were able to very carefully
glue it back into place
with Crazy-Glue, using a sewing needle to apply the glue in the needle-thin
part of the vinyl under
the grooves. I really couldn't believe it when it played very well with just
one big tick at the
"tip" of the pie-slice. I do not expect to get that lucky ever again. The
client was a really nice
guy or I would have charged extra for the awful music content of the job! ;).

I have tried a number of times to similarly repair broken 78's which had "bites"
(and I had the "bitten" piece as well...!). My experience was that these could
be
Crazy-Glued"...but, there was always a problem if the arc of the "bite" was
tangent (or whatever you call the meeting of two opposite-direction arcs...?!)
to the almost-circle of the playing-groove spiral at some point. Remember that
the playing groove is about 3 mil (.003") wide...so if you add a layer of glue
around .001" or more, the needle/stylus can easily slip into the wrong groove
at the repaired spot...!


Steven C. Barr




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