Re: [ARSCLIST] Public's rights....was offlist archival question from ARSC list member

[Roger and Allison Kulp <thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx>]

Tom,

No.In the case of rock,a sizeable chunk of facinating,and worthwhile stuff never got issued,but was well worth hearing,when it did finally come out.The Beach Boys "Smile",the countless different versions of "Strawberry Fields Forever", which show the numerous changes the song underwent.The Clash's "vanilla demos".The Sex Pistols stuff,that was so different than the released versions. The psychedlic version of "Submission",being one of the most obvious examples.Joy Division's material as Warsaw.As someone who likes both Robyn Hitchcock,and The Beatles,I very much want to hear Robyn doing "Rain",as a 1986 soundcheck.I want to hear stuff like "Daddy's Song",with Michael Nesmilth singing in a 1920s manner,rather than the released one with Davy.

Demos of songs given to other artists,are always worth hearing.

Just a handful of the hundreds of examples I could cite.Unfortunately some people,like REM will never let their huge fan base hear the hundreds of hours of stuff like this,they have been hoarding for the past 27 years.


                            Roger
Tom Fine <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think everyone who DIDN'T destroy the out-takes, especially in the jazz world, does some rolling 
in their graves over the slop that gets added as "bonus" tracks or included in completist reissue 
sets. I'm in the camp where I think the producer and artist made decisions at the time of the 
original release about what was released -- and in what sequence -- for good reasons and I object to 
reissues that over-ride those decisions. It strikes me as voyeuristic or sort of like peering in 
someone's bathroom window.

In the world of jazz fans/collectors, there is a crazy obsession with completism. I must say that it 
doesn't bother me so much that I don't buy the reissue sets -- I'm just grateful to see the master 
takes out there and sometimes in superb quality that is vastly superior to how I, Joe Listener, 
could have heard them when they were originally made. But I'm also grateful for Exact Audio Copy 
software because the first thing I do with a completist reissue is grab all the songs to WAV and 
then reconstruct the original albums in original sequence.

-- Tom Fine


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Olhsson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Public's rights....was offlist archival question from ARSC list member


> Don Andes writes:
>>Opinion A) NO - What gives anyone or everyone the right to be able to
>>hear every note that said artist recorded?
>
> This is the position the vast majority of artists and producers I know will take. Some destroy 
> everything but the final master if they think there is even the slightest chance of losing control 
> over it. They consider it part of their right to privacy to control what the public will have 
> access to.
>
> -- 
> Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
> Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
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