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Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
Ironically enough, I recently went on a search for the Stokowski Bell Labs
recordings, and the only thing I found was that Iron Needle disk. I have
never bought anything by this label for obvious reasons, but I had no choice
here, so I did. The transfer is actually not bad. There is a certain bloom
to the sound that I liked. I couldn't help but wonder where they had stolen
the recording from.
Soon after I bought the Iron Needle disk (that has about half of the
recordings), I found a "private" disk of all of the Bell recordings pressed
by Theo van der Burg of the Netherlands. His site is
http://www.med.hro.nl/burtw/. I have nothing to do with Her Burg, except
that I am a happy customer of his. His product is extremely well done, very
clear and open, and he was kind enough to send the set out to me even though
PayPal had bollixed up the payment. I imagine the rest of his transfers are
equally as good.
I heard the Ellington "accidental" stereo disks a number of years ago. They
were pressed and released, but I have forgotten by whom. The sound was good
and certainly less distracting than the Fantasia sound, where each choir of
instruments keeps bouncing around from speaker to speaker. As I remember,
the Ellingtons had a very nice spread. I will try and find out on which
label they were transferred.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> On Behalf Of joe@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
> The reference found on the web points to a CD on the Iron Needle label,
> and for me that is not a thrilling recommendation. Has anyone heard this
> CD and care to comment on the quality of the transfer?
> Joe Salerno
> Industrial Video Services
> PO Box 273405
> Houston Texas 77277-3405
> Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:
> > I have the Beecham centenary box,referenced on this
> > board,which looks good thanks for the link.While EMI
> > was behind the curve,in putting out thier first
> > Lps,and getting into stereo,they weren't the only
> > ones.Victor,put out both 33 "Lps",and were into
> > stereo,in the 30s.The Lps,were the famous "Program
> > Transcriptions',there are a few pop ones,but there is
> > also the Stokowski "Unfinished",which i own,and the
> > Toscanini Wagner Preludes,which i am actively
> > seeking,as well as a Beethoven #5,which i don't know
> > who did.(Like to get this too.)
> > As for stereo,I am aware of two systems.There is a
> > very cumbersome Victor system,that used synchronized
> > tandem turntables,with the left,and right channels,on
> > two different records.I am aware of recordings of this
> > type,by Duke Ellington,which I heard,when they were
> > issued on CD,several years ago.
> > And then there was Bell Telephone/Laboratories,with
> > thier famous Stokowski recordings,of 1931,issued on
> > private Lps,by Ma Bell,in 1979. Quoting from the liner
> > notes "Another Bell Labs innovationfrom this era was
> > stereophonic recording and reproduction.As the quality
> > of sound systems improved,some kinds of distortion
> > became noticeable.A.C.Keller and I.S. Rafuse concieved
> > a way of reducing them by seperating the high and low
> > frequencies and recording them on parallel tracks on
> > the same record.Later they fond a way of recording two
> > complete sound tracks in one groove and using a single
> > pickup to reproduce both tracks simultaneously with
> > minimum interference.From this came the recording of
> > two full range bands from left and right microphonesin
> > the same groove-the stereo technique perfected by
> > Keller and Rafuse in 1938.
> > But Stereophonic records needed needed expensive
> > pickups and two amplifiers and speakers,so it was
> > difficult to find a market during the depression era
> > of the 1930s.It wasn't until after World War II that
> > stereo recordings and equipment for the home became
> > popular."
> > I have a duplicate of one of these Lps next to me,in
> > a pile I want to stick on eBone.I can't get thier new
> > photo upload system to work on my Mac here.If anyone
> > can help me,please contact me offlist.
> > Roger Kulp
> > --- Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> The record was issued by Symposium, pressed from
> >> masters.
> >> Steven Smolian
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Frank Strauss" <fbsdmd@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:51 PM
> >> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
> >>> Interesting thread on the Classical message board
> >> of BBC 3:
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio3/F2620064?thread=3571327
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