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Re: [ARSCLIST] Alternate take, "part IV", Stravinsky: "Musique de l'Histoire du Soldat"



Should this be WLX 1609-2 rather than 16080-2?

Are they both on commercial labels or is/are they test pressing(s)?

These are non-US masters. Often the European issues carried no take numbers at all.

I'd suggest trying to synchronize one against the other as David Hamilton demonstrated some years ago. If they can be made to lock, they are the same take. If not, different.

Steve Smolian


----- Original Message ----- From: "Aurora Perez" <aperez@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Alternate take, "part IV", Stravinsky: "Musique de l'Histoire du Soldat"



At 05:51 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote:
Are you sure it's the same music? Columbia usually used further take numbers for additional takes rather than assigning a new matrix number.

Steve Smolian

Steve,
I'm sorry, I meant part VI not part IV. The title is "Triumphal March of the Devil."
The Stanford Archive has both takes: WLX-16080-2 and WAX-1608-1-A-F-1.


Yes, it's the same music according to the label. Maybe I should listen to it to be sure.
I don't have access to the equipment right now. I'll check later.


The matrix numbers for the complete set of recordings of the Soldier's Tale are WLX-1599 through 1602 and WLX-1607/ WLX-1608.

What Stanford has:
The records in Columbia album set M-184 include:
68123-D (WLX-1599-1/WLX-1600-1)
68124-D (WLX-1601-1/WLX-1602-2)
68125-D (WLX-1607-1/WLX-1608-2)
The individual records are:
LX-199 (WLX-1607-1/WLX-1608-2
and
LFX-263 (WLX-1599-1/WLX-1600-1)
LFX-264 (WLX-1601-1/WLX-1602-2)
LFX-265 (WLX-1607-1/WLX-1608-2)

and the variant take from album set MM-184 (record number 72291-D, sides 1/6; (WLX-1599-1/WAX-1608-1-A-F-1)

The researcher says, "According to the Stuart discography, the released takes for both WLX1602 and WLX1608 were second takes. Do you have an alternate take for side 4 (WLX1602-2)?"

We do not have the alternate take for WLX-1602-2.

Aurora



----- Original Message ----- From: "Aurora Perez" <aperez@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Alternate take, "part IV", Stravinsky: "Musique de l'Histoire du Soldat"



I have a researcher who is looking for the alternate take to Columbia matrix WLX-1602-2, "part 4" of Stravinsky: Musique de l'Histoire du Soldat, conducted by the composer, which may have been released on any one of the following Columbia pressings.

Columbia 68124-D from set M-184
72293-D from set MM-184
LFX-264
LX-198
GQX-10673
LWX-26

The Archive of Recorded Sound at Stanford has the other alternate take to WLX-1608-2 (i.e. WAX-1608-1-A-F-1 on record number 72291-D in album MM-184) but not the alternate take for WLX-1602-2.

If anyone has this alternate take, please contact the researcher Michael Stanley <mstanle3@xxxxxxxxx>. Also, please post to the list for the enlightenment of all.
Thanks,
Aurora Perez
Stanford Archive of Recorded Sound



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