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Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R error rates



Hi Don:

The way you describe it is how I've always understood it. My personal experience has been, for years, that 16x is a reliable burning speed for almost all CDR media. My Plextor drives have been known to just not burn certain cheapo media so I never buy it. T-Y and MAM-A media burn great at 16x and I too have found very low error rates using Plextor's software. I don't have a client with sophisticated analysis equipment like Richard's client but I did have one tell me that the audio CDR's I sent him play perfectly on his finicky older CD machine, a unit that usually won't play CDR media.

Richard, if you have time, run your tests at 24x, too. I wonder if 24x is perfectly acceptable with modern media and could be a time-saver.

As for Don's comment about 1x, I agree with this in most cases. T-Y blue-dyes seem to work OK at 1x in my Tascam CD recorder, exhibiting low but not zero error rates when checked with Plextor software. I should note that they exhibit lower error rates, in general, than commercial audio CD's tested with Plextor.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Cox" <doncox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD-R error rates



On 07/01/08, Richard L. Hess wrote:

While one CD does not make solid test, this indicates that the higher
speed produces more errors.

Burning a CD is a photographic process. There will be an optimum
exposure for each batch of CDs.

The stated maximum speed is the least exposure that could possibly give
acceptable results, like the stated speed rating of a traditional
black-and-white negative film in a camera.

A couple of stops more exposure, corresponding to one quarter the
maximum speed, is more likely to give good results. There will be a
range of speeds over which error rates are low. The intensity of the
laser affects this, and is I believe adjusted by the burner to some
extent after doing a short test burn at the start.

I would expect error rates to rise with very low speeds such as 1x on
current CD-Rs, as these have been optimised for higher speeds. They
would be over-exposed at 1X, unless the laser intensity is reduced
enough to compensate.


So, looking at it this way, what is an acceptable C1 rate for audio?

I was pleased not to get any C2 errors which Plextor showed in their
documentation as being acceptable at a low rate.

What are others getting?

I had a client ask me how I was burning CDs earlier this year. They
have some flavour of Clover analyzer and my CDs were showing lower
error rates than their in-house CDs--that was a pleasant surprise!
They are burning HHB blanks in HHB audio burners at 1X. Up until
tonight, I had burned at 16x ever since I got the Plexwriter CD/DVD
burners several years ago.


Regards -- Don Cox doncox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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