Re: [ARSCLIST] Barber of Bagdad question: Beschluß

[Maurice Mengel <mauricemengel@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi there
 as a native speaker of German and musicologist "Beschluß" seems wrong to
me. Also "nachkomponierte" seems weird although possible. "later composed"
should be something like that. My first guess would also be "Abschluss". But
the German translation implies that the second thing/part is also an
Ouvertüre. It is weird for an 'opener' to make the ending.
(Apparently I haven't followed the whole thread, but only the part that's in
this mail.)

hope this helps
Maurice


On Dec 23, 2007 7:41 PM, George Brock-Nannestad <pattac@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad
>
> Hello, again,
>
> the Beschluß could not leave me alone, and I have looked in a few German
> style guides and dictionaries. The word is definitely used (differently
> from
> my concept of it) to indicate some sort of finality, although in this
> useage
> it does not mean a conscious decision as such. According to DUDEN it is a
> more archaic use of the word. So, I have wrongfully accused the booklet
> notes
> writer of not knowing German, when in fact he or she was in all
> probability
> quite deliberate in the choice of expression. Well, it takes provocation
> to
> learn more.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> George
>
> > From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad
> >
> > Mike Richter stood firm:
> >
> > > George Brock-Nannestad wrote:
> >
> > ........SNIP .............
> > > >
> > > > ----- surely, the last word must be "Abschluß"?
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > George
> > > >
> > > > (now, that was a brief mail, was it not?)
> > > >
> > > Brief, yes. "Abschluß", no. "Beschluß", yes.
> > >
> > > The OCR was accurate.
> >
> > ----- the only problem I have with that is that OCR apparently knows a
> > different breed of German than I.
> >
> > OCR's sentence reads (in my translation):
> >
> > Die Originalouvertüre h-moil [should be "moll"] bildet den Auftakt der
> > vorliegenden Aufnahme, die nachkomponierte in D-dur macht den Beschluß.
> >
> > "The original overture B Minor forms the introduction to the present
> > recording, the later composed in D Major makes the decision"
> >
> > Either this is poetic license in summing up the preceding booklet note
> > paragraph, or the original translator of booklet notes has picked the
> wrong
> > word; "Abschluß" would simply have meant "ending", and that makes
> perfect
> > sense to my simple mind. Provided that is what is on the record.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >
> > George
>