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Re: [ARSCLIST] Pathe 12" Waldorf-Astoria DO



My guess is Okeh

Mine are overtures (One being "La Boheme".),by some European Orchestra,with no conductor credited.Don't want to dig the one or two I have out now.One of these I bought on eBay,in the 1917 US Odeon Fredrich Kark Beethoven #7 set. The final record in the set was missing,which was not mentioned,in the listing when I bought it.and the Okeh was replaced in the pocket.Anybody got a replacement record of the final disc for me ?

At the time,both Odeon and Okeh were both pressed by The National Phonograph Company.Others know more about the history of National Phonograph than I do,but I assume some of these Okehs were of recordings acquired as European Odeon recordings,they tried issuing on Okeh.

Someone here might be able to fill me in more on this.


                                 Roger

Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Is this a Pathe or an Okeh?

Steve Smolian

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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Pathe 12" Waldorf-Astoria DO


> As I say, there are some..the one I had and have again is Henry Hadley's 
> Orchestra (which I presume is members of the NY Philharmonic) in an 
> excerpt from the New World Symphony.
>
> dl
>
> Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:
>> I have a 12" Okeh acoustic classical 78.
>>
>>                           Roger
>>
>> David Lennick  wrote: Does the book list Claude 
>> Arnold's score for "Bridge on the River Kwai"?
>>
>> (Interesting..I've never seen a 12" Pathe Actuelle either Obviously there 
>> are at least 4 others. And very few 12" OKeh classical acousticals..I 
>> gave Father Arnold one years ago.)
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Robert J Hodge wrote:
>>> According to Malcolm Arnold's "The Orchestra on Record" it is the
>>> "Waldorf Astoria Concert Orchestra" conducted by Joseph Knecht.
>>>
>>> Issued December 1920.
>>> Bob Hodge
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steven Smolian
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:48 PM
>>> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Pathe 12" Waldorf-Astoria DO
>>>
>>> Nope.  Not there or under Waldorf Astoria either.
>>>
>>> It's "Concert Orchestra" which makes it a bit more perplexing.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dick Spottswood" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Pathe 12" Waldorf-Astoria DO
>>>
>>>
>>>> usually the orchestra was associated with bandleader Joseph
>>> Knecht--check
>>>> Rust's Dance Bands vol. 1.
>>>> Dick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steven Smolian Sent by: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>>> 12/05/2007 02:51 PM
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>>>> To
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>>>> Subject
>>>> [ARSCLIST] Pathe 12" Waldorf-Astoria DO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just received a Pathe Actuelle  12" 78, 15105.  It contains
>>> Chabrier's
>>>> Habanera (originally a piano piece, here orchestrated similarly to
>>> that by
>>>> the composer) and the March of the Toys from Herbert's "Babes in
>>> Toyland."
>>>>
>>>> The performing group is credited as the Waldorf-Astoria Concert
>>> Orchestra.
>>>> It sounds like 20 or so musicians.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who conducts?  What was this doing on Pathe as a 12"?   Something here
>>>> smells fishy- another group in disguise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't say I've seen many other 12" Actuelles.  Is there a story
>>> behind
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Smolian
>>>>
>>>
>>
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