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Re: [ARSCLIST] Libraries disposing of records



Hi Steven:

I don't understand what you're advocating. I'm with Philip Holmes -- if "save everything" types want to actually do that, then they can pay for it and figure out where to store it. Don't involve me or use my taxes for it (given the recent elections up your way, I'd say Canadians are getting tired of a high tax burden too). I'd rather have my efforts (and some of my taxes) go to intelligent preservation that attempts to weed out and save the "best" of each era -- knowing full well it's a biased and stilted representation of the time rather than the experience of actually being there (only those who live in a time/place get the privilege of "being there" and "doing that", everything else is a limited facsimile). That's what's worked since the Romans and before, so it's good with me. Main overriding good feature is that it's doable, as opposed to grabbing up and trying to preserve every last piece of junky "art" just to say "we kept it all." That to me is ridiculous.

Alas, the save-everythingers' "dream" is likely to be more true than ever of this current age. Digital stuff seems to lurk around in some corner of the connected world forever (as some of today's teens will find out when they finally grow up and decide to run for public office or seek a good job and their MySpace bare-chested video shoots them down). Barring a nuclear meltdown or return to the Dark Ages, all the garbage kicking around on the Internet today -- including all the mis-information touted in places like Whacky-Packia and numerous e-mail legends that circulate around and around and around -- will be preserved forever and after we all die off, it may be treated as "fact." This is what "unmediated history" gets you, and I don't think it's any better than the bias and loyalties of "wise men" written history as it was done up to now. As I said, there is really no way for someone who didn't "been there done that" to ever really understand it or experience it (latest example is the rewrite of the Ford years that the mass media did). The best he can do is find some eye-witness testimony and absorb it.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven C. Barr(x)" <stevenc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Libraries disposing of records



----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine" <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Steven:

Actually, what's happened historically has been that when a better sound
medium comes along, the
older musical styles get redone or revived in the new medium, to a certain
extent. Louis Armstrong
and Duke Ellington -- acoustic 78's, electric 78's, mono LP, stereo LP and the
master tapes from the
LPs reissued on CD with no LP limitations on fidelity. Armstrong and Ellington
recorded their
essential repertoire several times over, each in a higher fidelity medium. So
what about Bix (used
as an example because he died long before better fidelity came along)? Therein
is your argument. But
Bix has been preserved and in fact enhanced in later reissues as technology
got better. And when
someone today goes and buys a Bix CD, unless he has the worst listening system
around, he's
guaranteed a better listening experience that getting that
flawed-from-the-factory scratchy and
noisy shellac, putting it on his acoustic Victrola and hearing a tiny piece of
the audible spectrum
blasting out of his horn. But maybe the awful sound out of the tinny horn is
part of the
"experience"? BTW, I'm using jazz examples just because that's what I know. I
could cite Muddy
Waters (Lomax field recordings, same material recorded later in mono hifi and
then later again in
stereo) or a bunch of Classical conductors and orchestras who were active in
the 78 era and then had
a Golden Age of Recording starting with the transition to LP and then getting
all the way up into
the 70's in some cases, all the way to digital for a few. Point is, again,
that commercially viable
stuff gets preserved, rehashed, redone and then reissued and enhanced. If
there's a buck to be made,
it gets done.

Ahh-h-h...therein lies the "catch" (#1, not #22!)...

The material that is "commercially viable"...! First, that amounts to
1%...or even 1% of 1%...of the total amount...which is then assumed by
our mythical "Joe Gabroni" to be the ONLY worthwhile representation of
that era! I can buy countless reissues of Robert Johnson, since he had
the good fortune to be idolized by the "British Blues Invasion" and thus
be assigned iconic status...but should I be interested in some more
obscure artist (i.e. Big Bill (Broonzy) and his Chicago Five)...not
that easily found...

Second, this assumes that the de-noised, re-equalized, and otherwise
bent, beaten and battered into acceptable 21st-century form is actually
what the original recording could/would/should have sounded like! What
this is, in fact, is some contemporary re-engineerer-of-sound-recordings'
opinion of what was there...*IN HIS/HER/ITS OPINION!!* In fact, the next
"new version" might well be "Beethoven...as he could have composed if he
were aware of the digital synthesizer..."

Third, subsequent recordings of pieces by, say, Ellington...made thirty
or more years after their composition...are more a reflection of how his
performace style and musical tastes had changed over the ensuing years.
It is interesting to compare Ellington as of 1927 with Ellington as of
1967...but each recording has its own reasons for being worth hearing
(better both in one listening session...!). I can't say specifically,
but I suspect the same would be true for classical performances?

Finally...to me, saying that "vintage recordings aren't worth the
trouble of listening to..." is along the lines of looking at the
"Mona Lisa" and saying..."Now, think how much better that would
be if it were taken with a digital camera and then carefully
edited on a good computer..."

Steven C. Barr



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