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Re: [ARSCLIST] niche markets



haven't been following this thread in detail, but happened to scan this post - a few random comments
Most Mosaic sets are 5000 copies, a few 7500 and very few 10,000.
There are units connected to the majors which issue very limited editions: Rhino Handmade for WEA, Hip-O for Universal - editions
as small as 1500 copies. Back in LP days Columbia had their collectors series, and licensed some jazz material to Biograph.
And the Wendy Carlos catalog is issued by ESD (don't know if she bought back her catalog, or if it is licensed, nor do I have any idea
what quantities are issued). Rounder has worked with Columbia and RCA for their Jimmie Rodgers, Carter Family and Bill Monroe cd's, as have County and others. Marston has a deal with EMI for their very limited classical vocal and instrumental issues. Which is to point out that the small markets are not totally ignored by the majors. How these contracts are negotiated is not known to me. I do know that it must take a lot of work getting to the right person in the
majors hierarchy, and a good music biz lawyer. Some years back I made an inquiry concerning the possibility of releasing the Lee Wiley
Coral sides (they are now available from a Canadian label, and were bootlegged in the US-so UMG is losing whatever small income they
could have gotten if they had licensed those sides) and got the usual first response of 10,000 copies, x percent royalty etc.
I think someone seriously interested in licensing material can get more realistic terms if they do the work.
Thomas.


Tom Fine wrote:

Hi Mike:

You are very correct about niche marketing, but please look into licensing fees, mastering costs and required minimum units from the major companies and you'll see why this is rarely a good business idea. Do you ever wonder why a Mosaic limited edition is, for instance, 10,000? Because that's what the major label requires them to pay for in advance. So a product has to have a rather large niche to work, hence large chunks of catalogs sit out of print. The typical big megaglomerate wants this kind of licensing deal -- they'll sell you a digital master or if you have a thoroughly-vetted mastering place, they'll lease you the tapes to make a master. Then they want to do the manufacturing, typically through their Special Products unit. This requires a minimum-units order and payment. I think sometimes that price is such that you then have X thousand units to sell and you can keep all the proceeds. Maybe about a $6-7 per CD net cost, so you can make a 100% profit assuming you can sell out. So if you can scrape up X thousand customers, it can be profitable. This definitely works for certain products -- jazz box sets, for example. And now Mosaic is doing reissues of single Sony/BMG albums, which will probably be successful too. Classic and Speakers Corner seem able to license LPs rights and sell enough records to stay in business. I think they might have fewer minimum units and do their own manufacturing.

The key seems to be having niches that are big enough, and populated with customers willing to spend premium pricing.

By the way, there are very smart bean-counters in the megaglomerates who are very aware of back-catalog and reissue decisions are generally very sane business decisions for their business models. To some of our chagrins (including mine), that means a good amount of stuff we'd like to see in print again won't be. Simply put, we're not a mass market and not even a big enough niche.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Richter" <mrichter@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:46 AM
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Tom Fine wrote:

Hi Steven:

I think you should do some research. The record industry is completely youth oriented and baby boomers do not buy the bulk of the products.


May I suggest that the issue is not majority opinion but sufficient interest. That is, modern marketing is to the world not to the neighborhood. When one needed to find customers within walking distance of a shop, percentage interest was paramount. Even today, the major corporations in any field are concerned about market share.

But when distribution costs are modest and interest is intense among a few, a business can do very well indeed with a tiny fraction of the world market. So EMI or Sony/BMG may turn up its corporate nose at the market for a niche product, but a specialist publisher may thrive with the same customer base.

My primary interest in music is classical vocal. The industry players offer nothing at all to me - Andrea Boccelli and Renee Fleming are darlings of their product lines and neither has a significant place in my collection. The relatively few recordings I buy come from labels the majors do not know at all, such as Opera Rara and Andante (recently and deservedly defunct). The market leader in classical recordings is a label known to very few of the 'youth', Naxos.

Mike
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