Re: [ARSCLIST] Not using headphones

[Tom Fine <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think these are the guys. The name sounds familiar and they follow the techinque you describe and 
they've been on Austin City Limits. Thanks to everyone for sharing the knowledge.

Man, I'd love to record these guys "in the round" -- them working one figure-8 mic and audience 
sitting around them in a circle with a couple of omnis over them.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Barton" <mbarton@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Not using headphones


Several years ago, I saw the Del McCoury Band work with one microphone in just the way you describe. 
On their opening breakdown, each soloist would step up to the mic, play, and step back into the 
group. After the second or third soloist had finished, the woman next to me said "Cool! They're 
doing their own mix!"

Matthew Barton
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> > > tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 8/29/2006 6:14:22 PM >>>
There's a great blue-grass band, forgot the name but they've been on Austin City Limits at least
twice and I think also on that West Virginia public TV show, maybe called Mountain Jam or Mountain
Stage. They work around one mic, probably a dual-capsule condenser set at figure 8. These guys are
experts at moving close and out, varying their dynamics for this beautiful natural balance and
harmony, both vocal harmony and balanced between instruments and vocals. I doubt very many pros back
in the day were as good at this technique as these guys. I wish I could remember their name, I think
it's some brothers or a father and sons.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcos Sueiro Bal" <mls2137@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Not using headphones


> Lou,
>
> True, as a blanket statement it is a bit useless. But  in a live situation,
> I would almost always deal with a singer that is too loud than one that is
> too soft, and I have encountered the latter far more frequently. Few singers
> can overload an SM-58, although it does happen. But if you have a drum kit
> and rock guitars behind a whispering singer... that's when the trouble
> starts. I see that much more with younger perfromers, the ones that have
> grown up overdubbing their vocals, or in a separate vocal booth.
>
> There was one young band that played what they called "old-timey" music and
> tried the "old-timey" approach of having just one microphone on a [small]
> stage, which I was looking forward to. It was a disaster: their singing
> could not be heard above their instruments, and they said they could not
> hear themselves. Microphone or not, their balance was *acoustically* way
> off.
>
> Marcos
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lou Judson" <loujudson@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Not using headphones
>
>
> I do live sound for a lot of acoustic music, and find wide variation in
> singing delivery. I don't think a generalization like "singers do not
> project" is viable as a blanket statement - I know many too loud as
> well as too soft, and an unfortunate few with no fear at all!
>
> But then I don't see much electric music or rock kind of thing at all
> either... You may be right though.
>
> <L>
>
> Lou Judson * Intuitive Audio
> 415-883-2689
>
> On Aug 29, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Marcos Sueiro Bal wrote:
>
> > I have started to think that is a big psychological factor as well,
> > and a
> > big reason for why singers do not project when singing live anymore.