Re: [ARSCLIST] Copyright and Marston Records

[Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx>]

I don't have my tracing of these matters to hand at the present, but it is 
clear that Warner took back the Columbia Brunswick materials which it had 
let them use on a royalty basis.  Columbia defaulted on its royalties.  I 
don't believe they ever "belonged" to Columbia.

Steve Smolian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Copyright and Marston Records


> To clarify my earlier comment about Savoy, it lays claim to the entire 
> Varsity
> catalog and all Crown masters on the basis of having licensed some 
> ("some")
> Varsity sides in the 40s. And Universal's archive includes more than early
> Brunswicks..all English Deccas from 1929 as well as any older labels that
> company absorbed in the 30s, all Polydor and DGG, etc.
>
> Isn't there also some speculation that Sony/BMG might not really own the
> 1932-1939 Brunswick/ARC assets (which were in fact owned by Warner 
> Brothers?
>
> dl
>
> Steven Smolian wrote:
>
> > Not to mention Edison which is public domain as it is owned by the U.S.
> > National Parks Service and the government cannot own a copyright.
> >
> > Steve Smolian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Copyright and Marston Records
> >
> > > Bob Olhsson wrote:
> > >
> > >> >I hope details will be forthcoming, especially if they can serve as a
> > >> >badly needed licensing model for US companies.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> There are no US companies for the early stuff and little need for a
> > >> licensing model because Sony/BMG owns everything EMI doesn't and they
> > >> both own a lot of it jointly. Universal kicks in during the '30s.
> > >
> > > Nope..Universal owns Brunswick's pre-1932 catalog so it goes back to 
> > > the
> > > late 1910s whether it knows it or not.
> > >
> > >> Independent label ownership only begins in the '40s when the last of 
> > >> the
> > >> electrical recording patents expired.
> > >
> > > Crown, Hit of the Week, Grey Gull are among the more prominent 
> > > independent
> > > labels and as far as I know, all are orphaned (despite the claims that
> > > Crown went to Oberstein and everything Obie owned became part
> > > of Savoy).
> > >
> > > dl
> > >
> > >
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