Re: [ARSCLIST] Goon Show Transcriptions

[David Lennick <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have definitely seen "Vintage Goons" on ten-inch..borrowed them from a collector and taped them in the mid 70s.

And here's belated applause for your discography and Wilmut's book in general..unbelievable as it may sound, I picked up 3 copies of that treasure at a flea market north of Toronto some years ago for fifty cents apiece. Mint. (They've gone to good homes now.)

dl

"Copeland, Peter" wrote:

> Dear All,
>     Yours truly did the discographical work for what I believe was the
> first book about The Goons, "The Goon Show Companion" by Roger Wilmut. I
> don't know the date, but circa 1973. (That was the year I got married,
> and I can remember my wife's expression when the first royalty cheque
> came in!)
>     But I am writing about the specific question of ten-inch LP
> versions. This was because, before the BBC had a variable groove-pitch
> disc-mastering lathe, it was the only way to get 28-minutes plus onto LP
> discs. Every user of the BBC Transcription Service would have had access
> to twin turntables and a mixer for the purposes of rebroadcasting them.
>     And, if anyone needs to know. I hope I may cite my IASA article
> about how to equalise those early LPs, many of which were made before
> RIAA characteristics became universal.
> Peter Copeland,
> Former Conservation Manager (now retired),
> British Library Sound Archive.
> <peter.copeland@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lennick
> Sent: 11 December 2005 04:51
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Goon Show Transcriptions
>
> Further info: Transcription Service took its own feed from the studio
> where the Goon Show was recorded, took a copy of the script and edited
> its own version, which could differ little or much from what the BBC ran
> domestically. If the domestic version wasn't preserved, sometimes the
> Transcription Service version was the only one to survive.
>
> I've also seen The Goon Show on ten-inch! Why they would try that format
> is
> beyond me, but the "Vintage Goons" series was put out on ten-inch
> microgroove pressings when they went to microgroove, fifteen minutes a
> side (which I guess corresponded to the original 16" coarse groove
> pressings).
>
> I was unaware that more CDs had been issued..wonder if they'll do
> another sale price when they reach 30?
>
> dl
>
> John Ross wrote:
>
> > The BBC Transcription Service distributed the Goon Shows in the 1950s
> > on those 16-inch transcription disks shortly after the original BBC
> > domestic broadcasts. They were remastered and re-issued on 12-inch
> > transcription disks in the 1960s and 70s (maybe into the 80s). These
> > were the ones that were edited to cut out the "offensive" material.
> > More recently, BBC Enterprises went back to the original tapes and TS
> > masters and reconstructed them to add back the stuff that had been
> > cut out. Those are the ones currently available on CD -- they're up
> > to Volume 23, with four shows per package, so that's 92 original
> > shows so far (out of more than 200, not all of which have survived)
> > plus The Last Goon Show of All, and Goon Again, which was a tribute
> > show that used original scripts from episodes that have not survived.
> >
> > Separately, EMI/Parlaphone licensed and issued about half a dozen LPs
> > with two shows on each disc, with the music cut out (produced for
> > records by George Martin).
> >
> > In addition to umpteen fan sites, some of which offer copies of many
> > shows for download, both BBC7 and Radio National (ABC Australia)
> > broadcast a Goon Show every week. Both stations stream line to the
> > Internet, and BBC7 also has a "Listen Again" feature that makes them
> > available on demand for a full week.
> >
> > John Ross
> >
> > At  12/10/2005 03:10 PM, Mike Richter wrote:
> > >Ah - now we're in one non-classical area of interest to me. <G>
> > >
> > >Of the half-vast collection of Goon shows, a subset was distributed
> > >(I believe on the 16" transcriptions dlennick cites) to American
> > >public radio stations. A subset of those without the musical
> > >interludes was published on commercial, 12" LP. (Of course, I am not
> > >counting "Bridge on the River Wye" or the execrable film "Down Among
> > >the X Men".)
> > >
> > >Among those not offered to U.S. radio are some gems, but in general
> > >the best (most nearly sane) were culled for the colonies and many of
> > >the best of those made it to LP. Still, I miss the piano race and
> > >the one in an incomprehensible pseudo-Scottish language. Somewhere
> > >among my unlabelled or mislabelled open reels are a couple of 1 7/8
> > >ips tapes with the collection of an Aussie with whom I was friendly
> > >some forty years ago.
> > >Mike
> > >--
> > >mrichter@xxxxxxx
> > >http://www.mrichter.com/
>
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