Re: [ARSCLIST] 21st Century Discographies

[Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx>]

As I understand it, everything recorded in the U.S. is protected to
non-institution users who do not have permissions.  The more I see posted on
the Music Library Association web site, the more I believe this to be the
attitude of those nominally holding the copyrights.  I'm sure I don't want
to take on those behemoths financially and/or in court.  Being right, our
standpoint of course, is not worth the cost.  And they seem to be looking
for targets.

Steve Smolian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Richter" <mrichter@xxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] 21st Century Discographies


> At 12:18 PM 10/21/2003 -0400, Steven Smolian wrote:
> >This is public domain outside the U.S., of course.
> >
> >Steven Smolian
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <stevenc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:17 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] 21st Century Discographies
> >
> >
> > > To whom...
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joel Bresler" <joel.br@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > I'd like to kick off a discussion of the content of published
> > > discographies
> > > > these days. Specifically, given the ubiquity of optical storage (CD
ROM
> >at
> > > > the least, and increasingly, DVD ROM) and web access at every
library
> >and
> > > > most end-users, what could and should be included?
> > > Actually, this is already under extensive discussion on two e-lists
> >created
> > > for the specific projects, as well as incidentally on the 78-L list:
> > >
> > > 1) Jon Noring is trying to set up a project currently called "Project
> > > Gramophone"
> > > (name subject to change). The eventual intent is to provided sound
files
> >of
> > > every
> > > available 78rpm sound recording in the public domain, and if possible
to
> > > obtain
> > > permission from copyright holders for recordings not in the public
domain
> > > but
> > > not currently reissued or likely to be in the future. This project
would
> > > also
> > > involve the creation of an equally comprehensive discographic database
on
> > > all
> > > 78rpm sound recordings (the contents of this database are so far to be
> > > established)
> > > Jon can be e-mailed at Jon Noring <jon@xxxxxxxxxxx> and the list can
be
> > > subscribed
> > > to at the YahooGroups.com site.
> > >
> > > 2) Ron Fial is providing space for Tyrone Settlemeir's 78Label list.
This
> > > would
> > > involve making scanned images of the labels of all extant 78rpm
records,
> > > and, like
> > > the above PrGr project would also involve the creation of a
discographic
> > > database
> > > related to the label images.
> > > Ron can be contacted at ron@xxxxxxxx, and the list can be subscribed
to at
> > > http://www.78online.com
> > >
> > > Note that there is some overlap between the two projects insofar as
> > > discographic
> > > data would be concerned; I am in hopes the two groups are maintaining
> > > contact to
> > > resolve this. Once the "ultimate discographic database(s)" has/have
been
> > > created and populated, individual limited-interest discographies (i.e.
> > > certain
> > > artists. genres, labels, countries/regions, etc.) would be available
just
> >by
> > > defining queries and indexing data. I have been trying to connect
> > > discography
> > > with computer technology since 1989, when I first started using dBASE
III+
> > > to catalog my collection and digitize discographic references, as well
as
> > > trying to promote others to do so as well; once I saw the difference
in
> >time
> > > and effort between searching a dBASE file and searching 15,000 3x5
cards,
> >I
> > > was
> > > enthusiastic about the new technology!
> > > Steven C. Barr
>
> Forgive my inability to interpret.
>
> *What* is public domain outside the U.S. - of course or otherwise.
>
> Surely not the entirety of the material to which you top-posted.
>
>
> Mike
> mrichter@xxxxxxx
> http://www.mrichter.com/