Subject: Terminology
>>Don't be fooled about the term "non-toxic." It means that when a >>product was tested, a complete kill did not occur. It does not mean >>that it was without toxicity. Kind of scary when you think about >>children's toys. > >Please don't forget that, 'all things are poison, all things are >essential, it just depends on the dose'. Water, common salt and >carbon dioxide are all toxic if taken in excess but we would all >accept that they are generally regarded as 'non-toxic' Words like, >'safe', 'non-flammable', 'clean', 'archival', etc., etc., can be >defined to a level where they are meaningless, please let's accept >common sense in this forum. > > Colin Williamson This may be only a semantic point, but, then again ... There is a difference between toxic, poison, etc. Each has its own particular meanings, and although people use the terms interchangeably, this is not always possible. Here in the UK (EC, etc.) chemicals [that's another kettle of fish - when is a chemical not a chemical,] when bought will quote on the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) the toxicity, mutagenicity, carcinogenicity, LD50, and others (if known.) A poison is a special case, and something that is listed as a poison has its own special handling procedures (and is not the same as *toxic*.) I don't know the legal definition of toxic, but I think it is more strict than as stated above. Non-toxic doesn't mean totally safe, but the statement above implies that toxic only applies to those materials where a 'complete kill' occurred. This is vague, and the notion is better expressed in terms of LD50, or similar. Non-toxic is likely to apply to those materials where the LD50 is below a certain level, and related also to the exposure potential. If something shows toxic effects at a level of 50g per kg of body weight, but the maximum exposure will be 1g total, then there can be little risk of toxic effects. (e.g. the 'apple juice' and plasticiser scares of a few years ago.) As a comment on the second point, I wouldn't count carbon dioxide or water as toxic (not sure about common salt tho') Carbon dioxide is an asphyxiant, but carbon monoxide is toxic (but non-cumulatively--another book!) It's like saying being hit by a car is toxic when it isn't--though it will probably kill you. (conversely, not all things are essential.) It's important to be aware of the risks of any chemicals that you or your institution may be using, and also be aware of the preventative measures. Ask you supplier for an MSDS for any chemicals that they provide, and buy a good Health and Safety book. Also be aware of the *different* hazards--do not just say 'dangerous' or 'toxic,' but above all, don't be scared of the chemicals--even the nasty ones. Show respect when using them and take appropriate precautions, but don't be scared to use them if they are necessary. Simon Hogg Imperial College, London, UK *** Conservation DistList Instance 10:17 Distributed: Thursday, August 8, 1996 Message Id: cdl-10-17-004 ***Received on Thursday, 8 August, 1996