Subject: Halon
The following discussion has been lifted shamelessly from misc.emerg-services and edited slightly for space: From: George Goble <ghg [at] ecn__purdue__edu> Subject: Re: HALON Date: 30 Sep 90 Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network In article <27508.2704B95C [at] stjhmc__fidonet__org> Al.Stiebel [at] f440__n101__z1__fidonet__org (Al Stiebel) writes: >Any information yet as to research and development for a >replacement for Halon? > >Al ... Great Lakes Chemical, HQ in W. Lafayette, IN has announced a replacement for Halon-1211 I believe (think it may be called Halon-1508, but not sure). It also seems to work as a refrigerant I have heard. Their phone number is (317) 497-6100 if you want to give them a call. --ghg From: Larry Lippman <larry [at] kitty__uucp> Subject: Re: HALON Summary: Halon replacement chemistry... Date: 30 Sep 90 Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY ... "Halon" refers to a general classification of halogenated aliphatic hydrocarbons which are useful for fire suppression applications, and does not refer to a specific compound. With respect to environmental issues involving CFC's (chlorinated fluorocarbons), not all Halons are CFC's. As an example, Halon-1301 (bromotrifluoromethane) is not a CFC, and therefore poses no harm to the ozone layer. This does not mean, however, that Halon-1301 is without toxicity or other potential harm. > Great Lakes Chemical, HQ in W. Lafayette, IN has announced >a replacement for Halon-1211 I believe (think it may be called >Halon-1508, but not sure). Halon-1211 (bromochlorodifluoromethane) is indeed a CFC. However, the above replacement of "Halon-1508" could not be correct, unless a singular carbon atom has been discovered with a valence of at least 13. :-) Larry Lippman Recognition Research Corp. VOICE: 716/688-1231 FAX: 716/741-9635 From: George Goble <ghg [at] ecn__purdue__edu> Subject: Re: HALON Date: 30 Sep 90 Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network ... True, 1301 has no chlorine, but bromine does much more damage to the ozone layer. The "Alliance for Responsible CFC use" lists the ODP (ozone depletion potential) for Halon-1211 as 3.0 (three times worse than Freon-12). Halon-1301 is a whopping 10.0, the highest of any substance I have seen. Look for nasty taxes on Halons in '91. >> Great Lakes Chemical, HQ in W. Lafayette, IN has announced a replacement >> for Halon-1211 I believe (think it may be called Halon-1508, but not sure). > >Halon-1211 (bromochlorodifluoromethane) is indeed a CFC. However, >the above replacement of "Halon-1508" could not be correct, unless a >singular carbon atom has been discovered with a valence of at least 13. :-) The "1508" was the number printed on the tank and MSDS, the formula is still secret since they are still working on a patent I think. Thanks for pointing this out Larry. --ghg *** Conservation DistList Instance 4:17 Distributed: Monday, October 1, 1990 Message Id: cdl-4-17-002 ***Received on Sunday, 30 September, 1990