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Re: [ARSCLIST] Restoration of broken records...



Maybe he would do a presentation at the next ARSC Conference, or someone might do one on his techniques?

joe salerno


Dr. Cheryl Thurber wrote:
Cheryl Thurber wrote:
I was glad to see the name Jim Cooprider pop up. Back in the 1970s when I lived in Southern California I knew Jim. He had been working on solutions for broken records for years prior to that. I learned several techniques from him for various types of records (a duco-cement technique for older 78s, and MEK for post WWII records.) I am sure he has evolved his techniques even more since then. IF someone is in contact with him it would be good to try to get him to write out his approach and recommendations, and to post the information here, as well as a website.


Dr. Cheryl Thurber

email: cthurb@xxxxxxxxx

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Dan Nelson <dnelsonone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Dan Nelson <dnelsonone@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Restoration of broken records...
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 1:53 AM

Not long ago the UCLA film archives restored a unique 4 reel silent/sound picture
from Columbia, The Barker.
some portions of the movie were typical silent and 2 reels included sound.
The
Sound was contained on 2 16" inch shellac 33 1/3 rpm discs. After the film
was restored it was almost a lost cause to find the sound discs... ultimately
a set was found with the disc for the last reel in 4-5 pieces.
Thanks to the skill of Jim Cooprider, a member of California Antique
Phonograph
Society, the pieces were glued together, the grooves matched, a disc to digital


was made and a final dub to a film soundtrack allowed this early 1920s partial
sound movie to be re-released.
don ward -----Original Message-----
From: Graham Newton <gn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Aug 27, 2008 7:16 PM
To: 78-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx, ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Beautiful-Instrumentals@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Beautiful-Instrumentals] Restoration of broken records...


There has recently been some discussions of repairing a broken or cracked record. Everyone seems to have their own pet solution to the problem of
making
the record play again, some come close, but none provides a fully restored
result.
For some time, I have been intending to post an example of using CEDAR processes to restore a broken record and here it is.

This one is seriously cracked, but the process for a fully broken disc is essentially the same... get it into a playable condition and use
computerized
de-click and de-thump processes.

The source disc is a 10" American Record Corporation No. E 587 issued
around
1930, for theater use.

Love, You Funny Thing! - Imperial Dance Orchestra

See label photo here: http://www.audio-restoration.com/CIMG4743t.jpg

It was recorded at 33-1/3 rpm, transcription style inside start, with the
same
tune on each side.  The disc has a large 1/2 moon crack in it with one end
still intact, but hold it up to light and you can see light through the
separated end!

See surface crack here: http://www.audio-restoration.com/CIMG4746t.jpg

See entire crack here: http://www.audio-restoration.com/CIMG4747t.jpg


Reasoning was, they were played by the projectionist to synchronize with showing of a silent film. Being shellac discs, and with the heavy weight
of
the pickups and steel needles, the discs wore out very fast.  As one side
became noisy, the projectionist would order a new disc and start using the
remaining good side.

One pass used CEDAR de-clickle to remove the leading impulse clicks.
The remaining thumps were removed using CEDAR de-thump installed on SADiE 5
workstation.

The two audio files can be lined up to see there is no timeline
discontinuity
as there would otherwise be with conventional physical editing.

Here is the de-clicked file prior to de-thump being done:- http://www.audio-restoration.com/arc-e587-thumps.mp3

Here is the finished de-thumped file:-
http://www.audio-restoration.com/arc-e587-dethump.mp3



... Graham Newton







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