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Re: [ARSCLIST] Wanted : A different type of classical label.

Hi Roger:

A couple of thoughts.

First of all, you should (politely) ask the vinyl reissue people about some of these titles. All the vinyl reissue labels have websites with e-mail links and they're all small companies so a well-phrased e-mail is liable to make it right to the decision-maker(s).

Second, if this material is out on CD, for goodness sakes get with the past 35 years of technology and spring for a CD player. That's all you need. You can keep your amplifiers and speakers and switch that knob to Phono every time you want to play a record. What's the phobia? The good news is, if you want last decade's audiophilia CD players, they're cheap on eBay. The better news is, many name-brand modern "universal" players (especially the ones that play DVD/SACD/DVD-Audio/CD/CDR/MP3) sound better than almost any early-era or mid-era CD player. And another piece of good news is, if you fall into some extra cash, you can literally spend as much as you want on an external digital-to-analog converter and experience as much variety, good and bad, as shopping for cartridges or speakers.

By the time you tried to get even a fraction of this material on the radar of any of these companies, you'd be better of just caving to the inevitable and buying a decent CD player. And just to be clear, I'm not saying replace any of your vinyl with CD issues, unless you want to. I'm saying buy that whole universe of material that interests you and just won't ever be issued on vinyl.

One final point. Many vinyl collectors who deride and dimiss CD's have never heard a well-mastered CD played back in a good CD player. The cheapest thing you can buy on sale at Wal-Mart will be about as good as the cheapest turntable with the ceramic cartridge was back in the day. I've seen plenty a "vinyl snob" with a great turntable and piece of junk CD player and thinking he was making a reasonable comparison.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger and Allison Kulp" <thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Wanted : A different type of classical label.

This was the year,that I finally reached the point where I own over 90% of all of the classical Lps I want.The remaining 10% or less,being a select group that are either very rare,and high demand collector pieces,or are relatively obscure, undiscovered gems,mostly dating from the late 40s-middle 50s.And are just as rare or rarer than records selling in the high three low four figures.

I am considering going through and replacing some of my early Columbia 6-eye stereo with Philips pressings,but for the most part I am back to buying 50s/60s/70s rock,R&B,and Caribbean,as there is so much,that nobody could ever own it all in their own lifetime.Cab Records R&B/Calypso fusion from the 60s,and Asian Shadows style instro bands,are among some of my more recent purchases.

I do not buy CDs,and I would rather not start to do so.Not only out of my emotional attachment to vinyl,but,as this would also basically mean a lot of time,and money, that I do not really have,to put together a whole new system,that I like as well as my current one.This is all vintage audiophile gear,from the 50s/early 60s.

I do still have the desire though,to buy more classical vinyl.

Since the early 90s,there has been a massive number of golden age classical recordings made available to the general public,that were never intended to be sold.I am thinking especially of radio broadcast concerts,from the 1930s-70s that have been issued on small labels,such as Music and Arts,or even in house organs,like BBC Legends.

What I would like to see,either these labels,or some other enterprising other company do,is start to issue these recordings as limited edition audiophile vinyl remasterings,similar to Classic Records or Mobile Fidelity,if this would be at all possible.Yes,I am aware of Rococo,and all of those other "private " labels in he 60s,and 70s,who were basically putting out poor quality classical bootlegs,of this material.I have bought a few of these,by Beecham,Toscanini,and Walter,and was very disappointed by them.In short,they sound like crap,and are crummy pressings,too.They could have learned a lot from "Dub ",and "Ken ".None of them can touch what was coming out on TMOQ,CBM,and later TAKRL,at the same time.Those TMOQs don't sell for $200-$300 for nothing.

You don't have to put out many complete operas,as we can see what that would cost.The $759.99 Keilberth Wagner springs to mind,but you could easily sell out a pressing of say,3500 copies,at $50.00 for a single record,or $75.00 for a double, of some well mastered Lp of audiophile quality,from a good quality radio broadcast tape,of a Cantelli,or a Glenn Gould.

As with MoFI,if you did this well,you would be creating something people would cherish for generations.Somebody ought to consider doing something like this.


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