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Re: [ARSCLIST] Eric Coates on Parlophone



Just remember that his hits are hits because they were good..Coates wrote a lot of sentimental dreck as well, sorry. There aren't many hidden gems in those lesser known compositions, although "Four Centuries Suite" is underrated. "The Three Men" is awful.

dl (who posed the original question and would still like to know when the Parlophone album was recorded..indications point to 1954 but the sound is sub-par for that time period, with limited range and wow, even though splices are audible)

Darlene Brandt wrote:
I adore Eric Coates' music! What a find, to find him on Parlophone! His Knightsbridge March absolutely lingers in my memory and I find myself humming it now and again. I first heard it in high school at a county band concert and I don't consider his music "light" at all! I think he's marvelous. ENJOY your find!
:)--Darlene


Robert J Hodge <rjhodge@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I have my favourite Coates pieces and absolutely guarantee that you will
have yours as well! Another pair of fine English composer of "light
music" are Haydn Wood and Albert W. Ketelbey who also recorded, I
believe for HMV and Columbia respectively. Ketelbey made 2 celluloid
cylinders and was the recording director at Columbia. His name is
misspelled Ketelby by some. And some of it is definitely NOT light and can be quite a wonderful
listening experience.


Sir Thomas Beecham stated "Good music is that which penetrates the ear
with facility and quits the memory with difficulty".

Wood, Coates, and Ketelby's music easily fall within that description
for me.


BH

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aaron Levinson
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:12 PM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Eric Coates on Parlophone

Thanks Robert I think I will. I had never even heard of Eric Coates until yesterday and then to find a thread about him was just plain strange, so
I'll chalk it up to kismet and go pick them up. By the way if anyone on the list is ever in Philadelphia and collects classical vinyl the Book Trader
on 2nd and Market has thousands of records and they are very, very cheap. I know a guy through my cousin who says he gets tons of
ultra-rare
records out of the place for virtually nothing. I wish there was a jazz and latin shop that did the same...sigh.


AA

Robert J Hodge wrote:
They aren't terribly rare, but to heck with that- Buy them for the
wonderful music they contain as long as they aren't trashed or
overpriced. 2 dollars or so each should fetch them if in good
condition.
The 12inch Columbia LP is also well worth picking up until you find
the
original 78's.

I supremely doubt you'll regret your investment from a musical
standpoint!

R. Hodge

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aaron Levinson
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:23 AM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Eric Coates on Parlophone

I saw copies of those US 10" records yesterday strangely enough. Are they fairly common or do they have significant collector value? Just
curious
as I know so little about the value of classical records.


AA

David Lennick wrote:

Indeed, but the Parlophone LP is clearly a much later recording. Coates recorded for HMV and English Columbia in the 20s and 30s, and Decca/London in the late 40s and early 50s. US Decca issued this disc

as DL 4039, probably in 1954. It is definitely not the same as the 1930s English Columbia recordings of the same works (London and
London

Again Suites).

dl

Nigel Barrett wrote:

EMI issued a great comilation of the original 78's mostly recorded
in

the
early 30's ,a few years back-Although the dates are not given and
the
compilation includes the rarely heard Saxophone Rhapsody,EMI at
Hayes,dropping them a letter to the Archivist would receive the info

you

want David .Will check if the dates are in the sleeve notes.I
thought
of

Coates recently and the 50th anniversary of his death and to think
he

was
once Beecham's viola player c.1917 ! He came a long way !
NIGEL BARRETT IN BANGKOK


On 12/27/07, David Lennick wrote:


Repeating the question..any thoughts?

David Lennick wrote, Dec. 13:

Can anyone put a date to PARLOPHONE PMD 1004, Eric
Coates conducting the London and London Again Suites? This isn't
in

any
of my Parlophone catalogues for 1951-54, but this thing sounds as

if

it's dubbed from 78 masters..which is odd, since Coates had
already
recorded both suites for Columbia. In infinitely better sound, by

the

way, with a better orchestra. (Hmm, I just heard a splice go by.

That

still doesn't account for all the wow.)

dl






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