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Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question) now a Kate Smith question



Hopefully they ran two machines and the B reels are still somewhere. Not to be counted on, however, given track records of non-released material over the years.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hodge" <rjhodge@xxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question) now a Kate Smith question



How about the  unreleased cuts from Kate Smith's Carnegie Hall concert
ca 1964 ? To this day I can hear the cuts made in the tape used
to master the LP .

I'd certainly like to hear what was left on the cutting room floor !

BH



doncox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 4/9/2007 1:30 PM >>>
On 09/04/07, Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:

See the article I linked to Re:The CSO.Are you sure the Munch
"Damnation",isn't one of those,that were released in stereo in the
late 70s/early 80s,like the Munch "Pastorale",or the Cantelli Franck
?

According to notes by John Pfeiffer in the booklet with the "Age of
Living Stereo" sampler CD, part of the "Damnation" was spliced into a
demo reel, which was later lost.

A 5 minute excerpt is on that CD.

Maybe that and other lost tapes will turn up some day.


Roger


Steve Abrams <steveabrams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Not quite. The Munch
Damnation of Faust in February 1954 was recorded in stereo but only
issued in mono. Something happened to the stereo tapes. The Reiner
recordings of Heldenleben and Salome's dance were recorded on March
6th. Zarathustra came two days later on the 8th. However - and you
should be able to shed some light on this - some stereo recordings
were made by Bert Whyte at the December 1952 sessions of the Chicago
Symphony recording Ma Vlast under Kubelik. 'Tabor' recorded on
December 6th has recently been issued on Music and Arts in a
transfer
by Obert-Thorne. The very unpleasant overload distortion on the
Mercury Living Presence mono set, very evident on the CD issue, is
not
evident in the stereo version.

Steve Abrams

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine"
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST]
commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question)


I'd be interested to know what's on them and who released them. I
do
not believe you'll find that they are in fact 2T stereo. They are
likely half-track (2-sided) mono. If they are stereo, it would be
very interesting to know who put them out as in 1952 only a few
people were experimenting with 2-channel stereo recording of music.
No major labels yet, although I believe RCA started making 2T
masters
in 1954 or even 1953 -- I think Zarathustra with Reiner was the
first
2T session.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Palmer"
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops
question)



I bought my first 2 track tapes for my reel recorder/player in the Base Exchange in Sidi-Slimane, Morocco in 1952. I still have a couple of them in fact. Jack

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine"
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops
question)




Ampex developed their own, was developed by Leon Wortman in NY and
detailed in a 1951 Radio & TV News article. Wortman's line made
full-track or half-track tapes. Commercial half-track tapes were
available as early as 1951 or 1952, but there was only a very small
consumer market for reel to reel machines at that point. > Because
this was a new format sold at a premium price, a lot of QC
attention was paid by the reputable companies in this era, so the
net quality is very high. Akin to what happened when stereo LPs
came along.
.






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