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[ARSCLIST] Slides and inconvenient media (was spin it again)



This is an interesting statement. Slides might point out some of the pitfalls of preservation media. As I said, all those Kodachromes my parents and even a few from my grandparents (they weren't into photography as much) have been stored under good conditions in boxes and projector carousels all these years. The color is still vivid and almost 3D it's so sharp. Meanwhile, the albums of color prints have faded considerably, just sitting on the shelf. And most of the framed color pictures are severely faded. But, to this day, it's the albums my brothers and I -- or my brother's kids -- will pick up and enjoy. Why? Who has time to dig out the slide projector and set up the screen and sit around and go thru carousel after carousel. Hence the desire to digitized everything and have it randomly-accessible on DVDR or CDR or hard drives or all three or some combo.

The lesson regarding preservation media is that transferring something and then having it in a semi- or fully-inaccessible media is not a good goal, in my opinion. Part of any transfer project should be some sort of accessibility system. In the case of audio, that usually means a copy of everything on some sort of server, be the copy a direct high-resolution clone or in a compromised format like MP3. Same goes for video and for imagery. I've often wondered why the software makers don't see this and make a feature where you have a SAVE-AS option to simultaneously save full-rez and lower-rez copies. This would be great in any audio editing software, and Photoshop and video software. Would be one less thing for operator to remember to do.

How an organization is going to make transferred material accessible should be mandatory part of any grant application. I think it would also help with another of my pet issues -- selectivity (ie transfer the best stuff on the most threatened media first and then prioritize down from there, check what other insitutions are doing so you don't work in a vaccuum and consider sharing similar material so as not to duplicate each others' efforts).

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Palmer" <vdalhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Anyone familiar with "Spin It Again" Software to convert Lps a...



Good luck Tom,
   I've been retired 20 years and haven't touched my slides yet.  Not enough time.   Jack

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine" <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Anyone familiar with "Spin It Again" Software to convert Lps a...



Hi Steve:

Most if not all standalone recorders let you set a "make-a-new-track here" threshold. It's not perfect but it's another solution. In Soundforge, all you do is put mark (the M key) between tracks then "convert marker to regions" and "save each region as a separate file". Only takes as long as to scroll thru the waveform and make the marks and then how long the computer grinds.

As for slides, you are very right that there is expensive outsourcing or time-consuming DIY but nothing in between. My parents took thousands of Kodachrome slides and they all are still vivid color but I have not had the time to tackle that job yet. That will be one of MY retirement projects.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ramm" <Stevramm@xxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Anyone familiar with "Spin It Again" Software to convert Lps a...



Thanks guys! Somehow I thought I;d get answers like that knowing this a
highly "technical" group. I know I didn't want to transfer my Lps using one of
those cheap combo jobs.

Actually at this point in my life - 62 - I'm spending so much time listening
to new releases of old material (for my monthly column in In The  Groove)
that I'm not about to build up a big library. Basically I want music on the go.
And, I don't want to be a "sound archive" as my materials isn't THAT rare!
Look, doesn't everyone have hours of old radio comedy shows? And after those of
us over 50 (60?) go no one will want them anyway.

My problem with cassettes and reels is that I don't have time to figure out
where in the tape there is a song I want to hear. Looking at the demo on Spin
It  Again, I fugured I could set up a portable tape player next to my PC, run
the  tape through the software to the PC and it would pretty much separate the
tracks  between silence. Then I could index it and burn to CDs if I want. My
PC probably  has a decent sound card. Heck, I'm happy with the radio shows I
record with  Total Recorder - which at less than $20.00 is something I love and
it's easy for  a dummy like me to use.

Tom, you pointed out value of time. I agree and that's why I wanted
something that would work quickly and easily and I'm not planning on doing it  for
anyone's ears but mine. I have mid range speakers on my stereo and my MP3
player. I'm into the content not whether the frequency is high or low. Spin it
again offers declickers in the software. It's low end I realize.

I tried to use Audacity to cut up a long program once and got, not only
stumped, but it took time. It's way too technical for me. And my Dell PC cost
less than $500. without a monitor so I'm not looking to even put $75.00 more
into a sound card. I just thought this might serve my purpose.

If you guys want, maybe someone can go to their site and look at demo and
give me thoughts on the downside of using it ASSUMING you want dubbing for
dummies of mostly speech, voices and some live concert recordings - that will
eventually be discarded.. and not spend over $50.

Though it's somewhat different, I've been reading a lot of articles lately
to transfer slides (Photo slides) to digital. I was one of those who only took
slides cause they were cheaper than prints. I have thousands. Well, the
consensus of all is that there is NO INEXPENSIVE way to do it. If you have done
by services it comes to about 50 cents per slide scanned. If you do it yourself
it will take at least 3 minutes per slide to scan and save PLUS the cost of
a  $100. scanner. Multiply this by time value and a few thousand slides and
you can  see it won't work. I have no heirs who will care anyway. But these
technological  changes have really moved fast in our lifetime.

So thanks for the replies. I won't do anything right away but I might use
their free trial (which lets you record indefinitely but only burn three CDs or
or save 3 digital files.

Steve





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