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Re: [ARSCLIST] Curious--was: well, this might <snip>Questions galore !
Hello,
To directly copy and paste from at least 2 other emails I've written
today.....
Unfortunately, searching for documentation about tapes is much more
difficult that searching for tapes themselves. Also it should be
understood that no label has excellent cataloging databases for
searching "pre-computer" data such as this. It's about pulling boxes of
paperwork from vaults, and manually going through it, which takes more
time and money than you could imagine.
I'll add to this....
The archives holds masters, which do not hold any additional
A&R/Legal/Catalog/Release Info. It also holds the Finished product,
which is most often identical to the stuff in your collections.
Therefore, I don't really have direct access to information that would
answer questions beyond the recording phase of a project. I am also
contractually bound NOT to speak about which masters we have or had, are
currently on loan, or have been misplaced.
Also...
The UK, maintains it's own Archives, which is a fantastic, very well
preserved monument to all things EMI, including non-music stuff like Cat
Scan machines, Radar technology, and a bunch of other stuff that EMI
developed. I just visited that archive, as well as Abbey Roads Studio,
however, I can't really answer UK archive questions.
So...
When you figure how many labels have existed under the EMI umbrella in
the US (I guessed 100 in another email) how many things I have to look
after (rough figures exceed a million), and the massive amount of data
that existed prior to computer databases (which I'll guess started 35
years after the company was founded), it's easy to understand how you
guys know a lot more than me when it comes to the specifics of
individual releases, especially those which happened prior to 1974 (my
year of birth).
I enjoy answering questions, but if you've got a copy of finished
product in your hands when you ask a question, you're already way ahead
of me, because it will take me time to call up that item and even begin
a conversation. It should also be noted that I actually oversee many
vaults across the nation, so roaming the stacks would involve luggage
and an airplane.
I'm sorry I didn't directly answer the questions below, but I believe
responding to question with wider appeal to the list to be a better
expenditure of my time.
Thanks,
Don Andes
Director of Archives
EMI Music
-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger and Allison Kulp
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:48 AM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Curious--was: well, this might <snip>Questions
galore !
Don,
It's nice to see someone in a position,such as yours show up here.I have
a number of records,I have accumulated over the years,that I have
questions about,and as I go through my collection,again,I will dig them
out.I was wondering if you could identify or give me further information
about them.
Let me start with some early UK microgroove Lp acetates.I have four
acetates.These acetates appear to be early experimental (?) Lp transfers
of 78 sets, dating from the 1940s,although most of the recordings are of
the 1938-9 vintage.I think.I have Two 12" ones,and to 10" ones.The
artists are Benno Moisevich, Thomas Beecham,Bruno Walter,and The VPO,and
Boyd Neel.These are professional quality acetates,and not home recording
jobs.The labels are not printed as coming from EMI,but the UK EMI
catalog numbers are written on the labels,and the printing on the
labels,identifies them as coming from the mastering plant,of somebody
named Troutbeck,in Middlesex.Assuming these are EMI acetates,how old are
they,and who is this Troutbeck ? Teh Google,and other online
searches,come up empty.
Jumping ahead several decades,and genres,we come to Blur,and Parklife.I
recall reading in "Goldmine",in 1998,that there was a purple Capitol
label 45 of this song.Nobody I have contacted about this record,has been
able to verify it exists Was it indeed issued,what is the number,and
what is the b-side ?
I own an original pressing of the Exotica classic "Forbidden Farm"/"RFD
Rangoon"by The Forbidden Five.This has appeared on several compilation
CDs,in the past 9-10 years,but the original 45 came out on Capitol.Who
were The Forbidden Five ?
Does a commercially issued stock 45 exist of "It's Going To Happen !",by
The Undertones ? (Harvest 5027 or matrix # SX600340) If so,what is the
b-side ? Julie Ocean?
Did Capitol record anything with Mark Lindsay,in 1976-77,or is this one
of the many hoaxes "Goldmine" put out there ?
This is just the start,believe me,I got lots more.
Roger Kulp
"Andes, Donald" <Donald.Andes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: As the Director of
Archives I oversee the collection, cataloging, and storage of all
Creative assets (Audio/Video/Film/Photo/Artwork) for EMI in the US. I
don't deal with any legal, accounting, or contractual paperwork as that
is stored in paper vaults under someone else's careful watch.
I do have metal parts, 16" transcription discs, 78's LP's, ect. as well
as analog tape, digital tape, cd's, dvd's, and most other media storage
formats. I also keep session notes, recording logs, release books, etc.
If it came out in the US with EMI/Capitol/Virgin/Blue Note (or any other
subsidiary label) then technically I should have the masters and 2
copies of the finished product.
The job keeps me pretty busy, which is why I lurk more then I post in
this forum.
Don Andes
Director of Archives
EMI Music
P.S. I don't do the suing.....Legal Affairs gets that job.
-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lennick
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:07 PM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Curious--was: well, this might
Steven C. Barr(x) wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andes, Donald"
>> Don Andes
>> Director of Archives
>> EMI Music
>>
> Your signature caught my eye! Are these archives of masters/metal
> parts, archived recording ledgers, or some completely different form
of "archive?"
>
> Steven C. Barr
>
>
Or is this the guy who's going to sue me for transferring 51-year-old
Capitols for offshore CD reissues? I know NUSSING........
xq
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