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Re: [ARSCLIST] Transporting 10 inch pancakes



Old Telefunken tape was designed to stay on the hub and no reel was necessary. At some point this changed- I'd guess in the mid 1960s.

This tape was noroius for sheding red oxide. Anyone who used it won't forget its distinctive feel.

Steven Smolian

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Transporting 10 inch pancakes



A CBC producer I worked with in Edmonton had been a tonmeister in Germany, where they work exclusively with pancakes, not reels. He said you weren't a pro until you'd rescued a master that had fallen off the hub.

And another CBC producer in Ottawa was trying to put together three programs based on piano roll recordings that had come from Australia via the EBU and had one roll he had to spend hours rescuing before we could use it (I think we were going to go live to air on that one, too!).

THEN there was the situation at CJRT in Toronto in the mid 60s, where professionals did much of the daytime programming and students recorded some other shows, including an all-night program which was done at slow speed on thin tape and played by an automated system involving two Crowns and a relay that triggered the second machine when the first tape ended. This involved cutting the tape at the desired switchover point and leaving it attached to nothing, since the trigger was a light beam in the first machine. Invariably the tape wouldn't stop and the morning man would come in to find gazillions of bits of tape flung all over the studio. And on one occasion, the professional (it was Ted O'Reilly, doing his Jazz show live) must have rewound the all night tape and had it pack up inside the reel and had to try and rescue the tape without destroying it..because he triumphantly announced on the air that there WOULD be an all night show after all.

dl

Kiwi O'Connell wrote:
I agree with Parker, Richard and Tom. You really don't want your precious
tapes looking like this -
http://www.cupsnstrings.com/xSites/Agents/cupsnstrings/Content/UploadedFiles
/Ugly%20Tape.jpg


The client said "some tape came off the reel"! It took 86 hours to get this
1/4 inch analog tape back on to a 10.5 inch reel. Proper packaging is
paramount!


Cheers

Marie

Marie O'Connell
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 -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Parker Dinkins
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:27 PM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Transporting 10 inch pancakes

on 2/6/07 3:59 PM US/Central, Jerry McBride at jerry.mcbride@xxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Does anyone have experience with moving a collection of quarter-inch
tapes, as ten-inch pancakes in their original boxes? It seems logical to
assume that it would be safer to ship or move tape on reels. How great
is the danger that the pancake will come unwound under normal shipping
and moving conditions if stored on hubs in the original boxes?



AES Standard for audio preservation and restoration- Magnetic tape - Care and handling practices for extended usage (AES49-2005):


4.5.5 Flangeless hubs


Sometimes magnetic tape is stored on flangeless hubs. When this practice is
used, the following recommendations shall be observed:


a) Only backcoated tape designed for storage on a flangeless hub shall be
stored in this manner. Non-backcoated tape will not wind properly and is at
high risk of falling off the tape pack.


<snip>


In the past week I've received and repaired two broken tape packs which were
stored on flangeless hubs.


One of these was backcoated tape which didn't travel via common carrier at
all. The other was non-backcoated and packed tightly with a styrofoam tape
spacer.


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