Re: [ARSCLIST] Question on matrix take numbers

[David Lennick <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'll take credit for the Delius transfer if you got the later pressing 
where they corrected the pitch..apparently I transferred Brigg Fair a 
half tone out and nobody caught it for years. I think there were 11 
takes of side 1 and the one they finally issued had major varispeeding 
problems..hate to think what the other 10 were like. Anyway, on 
Columbias--both UK and US--the W indicates Western Electric equipment 
being used. C means they were using their own cutters after about 1930 
on English Columbias, and the lack of a prefix on US recordings will 
indicate something similar. WAX and CAX are 12-inch, and WA and CA are 
ten-inch. (But US Columbias from 1939 into about 1941 also may have W 
prefixes, and these indicate that World Broadcasting was doing the 
recording.)

dl

Larry Friedman wrote:
> Thanks to all who took the time to answer my question. Actually, I was more
> referring to HMV and English Columbia. Upon looking closely at the Naxos
> transfers of the early Beecham Delius (now, who was it, David, who effected
> that transfer? Whoever it was, it's a damned good one), I noticed that the
> 1928 recording of Brigg Fair's first side is listed as master number WAX
> 4335-10! That surprised me, but the very next track is La Calinda from
> Koanga, and the master to that is listed as CAX 8112-2A. It was that that
> started me wondering. While we're on the subject, was the 'W' an indication
> of 12", while the 'C' of 10"?
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> > > I've recently started to pay closer attention to matrix numbers. The
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> > This has been answered by a number of people, with no concensus on
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