Re: [ARSCLIST] Shout Factory Poetry Box still continues Walt Whitman Cylinder hoax, + treasury business

[David Lennick <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:

> Well that Brahms hoax certainly hasn't been revived.The one where they supposedly found a pre-Edison glass(?) cylinder buried in a box underground.It was undecipherable,except for a regular thumping noise.They claimed this was because it had been laying on its side for 130 years.Someone refresh my memory,please.
>
>                                      Roger Kulp

Not Brahms..Chopin, and a lampblacked glass disc, no? Apart from the thumps being at 176RPM I thought the thing was well done. It certainly fooled a CBC broadcaster with a network show in Vancouver..he went live to air with it, raving about it, and the brass in Toronto heard the feed and hollered down the line and
he issued a very sheepish correction during the next hour. I'd still love to get a copy of that thing.

dl

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>
> Richard Warren <richard.warren@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Steve,
>
> The Whitman Dept. is getting to be as bad as the
> Mark Twain Dept. (the one that's most likely
> William Gillette) -- yuck, why don't frauds die, like people do ?
>
> Today I've sent off to you 3 requests for
> payment: Jessica Wood and Don Rayno, the 2006
> Research grant recipients' forms and slips and
> the next chapter in the translation project (it's
> been so long you may have forgotten that project,
> which has its own fund). Please let me know how
> much is left in that fund when you've paid the current invoice.
>
> Thanks very much, and Happy Thanksgiving !
>
> Richard
>
> At 02:46 PM 11/22/2006, Steve Ramm wrote:
> >I got an email today from Shout Factory about their box sets for the  holiday
> >gift season. One was:
> >
> >_Shout!  Factory - Poetry on Record - Poetry on Record: 98 Poets Read Their
> >Work  (1888-2006)_
> >(http://www.shoutfactory.com/selection/292/poetry_on_record_poetry_on_record:_98_poets_read_their_work_(1888-2006).html)
> >
> >
> >As you will see the fraudulent Walt Whitman cylinder is included. No matter
> >what we do, we can't kill this myth. It certainly is great for promoting a
> >set,  showing how early they went back to include it.
> >
> >I wrote to SF and sent them the NPR story on the cylinder. The reply I got
> >was:
> >
> >
> >Rebekah addresses this in her  essay: Of  the three Edison recordings, only
> >the one of  the American giant of modern poetry, Walt Whitman, has had its
> >authenticity  questioned. We know that Edison
> >wished to  record Whitman, and we
> >know that Whitman (who was so tireless a self-promoter  that he once reviewed
> >his own book!) would have liked to be recorded.
> >His  four-line poem, â??America,â??
> >  published in the 1889 edition of Leaves Of  Grass, seems too obscure to be
> >chosen by a forger. As Galway Kinnell  points
> >out, Whitman wanted to be seen as
> >more patriotic and acceptable to the  general public late in his life, which
> >is why he wrote such work
> >as  â??America.â??  Still, the original wax cylinder
> >has never been found and neither has any  documentation verifying that the
> >recording session took place. Kinnell, who
> >says  he is unsure of the recordingâ??s
> >authenticity, also says that the first time
> >he  heard it, a flock of birds flew
> >to the ceiling of the church he was in at
> >the  moment Whitmanâ??s voice hit the
> >air.
> >I'm  posting this JUST incase any Sound Archives have purchased this set.
> >They should  be aware. The same thing happened
> >about a year ago with a book and
> >CD set  "Poetry Speaks" from Source Books.
> >Steve
>
>
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