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Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo



Not LOC but Smithsonian/Folkways.

Steve Smolian



----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine" <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo



Many of the Cook recordings can be bought from the LOC. Some transfers are better than others.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Smolian" <smolians@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo



Earlier stereo LPs were put out by Emory Cook using two separate tracks and a forked arm witha cartridge at the end of each of the two tynes. Both Livingston and Atlantic also issued records using this format. About 1954.

Steve Smolian

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo



Just to clarify..Victor had no intention of producing stereo or binaural
recordings in the 1930s and anything that results from synchronizing discs cut
on two cutters is accidental. The two cutters were for backup, or when they
were simultaneously recording 78 masters and the long-playing "program
transcriptions" that paralleled them. Bell Labs WAS trying for different kinds
of reproduction, as well as trying to isolate the various parts of the spectrum
in an attempt to reduce distortion.


Stereo LPs weren't produced until 1958 (the first was in November 1957).
Stereophonic tapes had been around for a couple of years before that, and of
course Walt and Leopold gave us multi-channels in "Fantasia" in 1940.


The Victor Beethoven 5th PT is by Stokowski and it's just been issued in a
Music And Arts box set of Stokowski's Rarest Recordings. (They weren't all
original recordings..the Schubert Unfinished you have is dubbed from the 1927
78RPM set.)


dl

Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:

I have the Beecham centenary box,referenced on this
board,which looks good thanks for the link.While EMI
was behind the curve,in putting out thier first
Lps,and getting into stereo,they weren't  the only
ones.Victor,put out both 33 "Lps",and were into
stereo,in the 30s.The Lps,were the famous "Program
Transcriptions',there are a few pop ones,but there is
also the Stokowski "Unfinished",which i own,and the
Toscanini Wagner Preludes,which i am actively
seeking,as well as a Beethoven #5,which i don't know
who did.(Like to get this too.)

  As for stereo,I am aware of two systems.There is a
very cumbersome Victor system,that used synchronized
tandem turntables,with the left,and right channels,on
two different records.I am aware of recordings of this
type,by Duke Ellington,which I heard,when they were
issued on CD,several years ago.

  And then there was Bell Telephone/Laboratories,with
thier famous Stokowski recordings,of 1931,issued on
private Lps,by Ma Bell,in 1979. Quoting from the liner
notes "Another Bell Labs innovationfrom this era  was
stereophonic recording and reproduction.As the quality
of sound systems improved,some kinds of distortion
became noticeable.A.C.Keller and I.S. Rafuse concieved
a way of reducing them by seperating the high and low
frequencies and recording them on parallel tracks on
the same record.Later they fond a way of recording two
complete sound tracks in one groove and using a single
pickup to reproduce both tracks simultaneously with
minimum interference.From this came the recording of
two full range bands from left and right microphonesin
the same groove-the stereo technique perfected by
Keller and Rafuse in 1938.

  But Stereophonic records needed needed expensive
pickups and two amplifiers and speakers,so it was
difficult to find a market during the depression era
of the 1930s.It wasn't until after World War II that
stereo recordings and equipment for the home became
popular."

 I have a duplicate of one of these Lps next to me,in
a pile I want to stick on eBone.I can't get thier new
photo upload system to work on my Mac here.If anyone
can help me,please contact me offlist.
                                 Roger Kulp

--- Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The record was issued by Symposium, pressed from
> masters.
>
> Steven Smolian
>
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> > Interesting thread on the Classical message board
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