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[ARSCLIST] Editing and splicing



It would be an interesting experiment to see if one can pick a continuous take vs one with (good) edits in unknown places. (Sometimes I have heard takes where I could have sworn there was an edit, but actually there was not, simply because I was in the "find an edit" mode.) Another interesting one would be to ask someone with good ears to pick the better one, not based on continuity, just on preference in general (without the listener knowing we are testing for feel of continuity). My guess that there would not be a direct correlation, i.e., sometimes the mistakes would be more bothersome than the supposed feel of continuity. But who knows? I love the power of blind testing.

Marcos

--On Monday, March 13, 2006 12:53 PM -0600 Karl Miller <lyaa071@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Robert Hodge wrote:

VERY TRUE !! Hence the expression " We Can Fix It In Post ".

Just because the tool is available to " Fix it" , why should performance
suffer?

One complete and uninteruppted perfect take beats many retakes hands
down !

My 2 Bits.

I have often wondered if there is not something lost in the editing process. I have worked on releases (won't mention names) where a ten minute movement could have as many as 15 edit or more edits. Some musicians I have worked with have an almost unearthly ability to pick out a measure here and a measure there and then put together an extremely complex puzzle. In such instances, while I am amazed at the continuity they can maintain, I wonder if such a practice actually destroys some form of continuity in the communication, a continuity that is not obvious on first listening.

I am also reminded of doing side joins on 78s where conductors had to stop
mid movement...some times one take will work better with another, but
yet, and maybe it is just me and knowing how things were done, but a
broadcast performance, recorded on 16 inch lacquers, seems to be more
convincing...not just the spontaneity of it, but somehow it seems to be a
question of continuity...even when one considers how masterful those
musicians were at keeping tempi right from one side to the next. For
myself, one those rare occasions I had the opportunity to
conduct...stopping (say in rehearsal) is a bit like being interrupted when
you are about to say something in an argument. The part after the
interruption never comes out exactly the say as it would if you had been
allowed to continue your thought without the interruption.

Since many of you have done plenty of editing...I wonder what your
thoughts might be.

Karl




Marcos



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