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Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
In some respects, I think we can credit Jack Mullin as the earliest
craft editor, working with scissors to edit Bing Crosby and Burl Ives
shows in 1947 on his Magnetophon transports with his own electronics.
And yes, you can hear some of them.
Were the Columbia pitch changes due to start-of-reel/end-of-reel
speed changes or what?
The worst edit I ever did was when we had the organ blower on for the
main take and then we did a pickup at the end and someone had turned
the organ blower off....
Cheers,
Richard
At 10:18 PM 3/10/2006, David Lennick wrote:
And Tom gets A+. Joel Tall did the editing on "I Can Hear it Now",
but his credit may have appeared
only on the 78 version. I know I saw it somewhere.
I still flinch every time I hear a bad edit on a disc from an early
tape master, and there were lots of
them. Tony Bennett's "Sing You Sinners" (first recording, 1950) has
a real stinker about 15 seconds in.
Pee Wee Hunt's "Wabash Blues" has one that I swear drops a beat
(although that's a blessing..anything
that shortens any of their Capitols is a step in the right
direction). Then there's Leroy Anderson's
"Fiddle Faddle" on the Decca 78 and 45, with a splice so bad it
catches in the gate and wows the music
at that point. Then there are all those Columbia edits where the
music drops a half tone....aaaargh!
dl
Tom Fine wrote:
> It was Joel Tall. If I remember the story correctly, he was a CBS
producer or editor in the early
> days of tape. He invented a better way to splice tapes than a
wooden block with markings on it. See
> patent # 2599667.
>
> The best razor-man I ever saw was a radio commercial guy who's
now retired. He would keep notes on
> the details of ever word of every take, and his ear was trained
so that he could hear during a take
> THAT'S IT for one word out of 20 or 100 or more. He could splice
together syllables into words. One
> 30-second spot I saw him put together (with a not so great v/o
guy) had over a hundred splices. It
> sounded perfect, like the guy just nailed the take and walked
away. My friend knew better and has
> the gray hair to prove it. Like many older guys, he's not that
comfortable on a computer, so I
> helped him out with something he was doing for another friend,
using a professional voice-over guy,
> a couple of years ago. It took us a full day to record and edit
the bit. His comment was, it might
> have gone slightly faster with a blade -- which I chalk up as a
credit to his efficiency since we
> were not wasting time and Soundforge was very cooperative that
day. He admitted it's more intuitive
> to see a waveform on the screen and be able to drop markers and
cut and paste stuff (also easier to
> keep track of edit windows than 6-inch bits of tape).
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>
> > Jeffrey Kane wrote:
> >
> >> I found a bunch of them in Australia about a year ago and
bought 15 or so.
> >> The place may still have them. I'll try to find their URL.
They are labeled
> >> BASF and are in a small grey plastic dispenser. The other
manufacturer was
> >> Editall. The tabs were branded XEDIT. Last ones I found were at Tape
> >> Warehouse in Atlanta but I think I bought all they had. They
still have the
> >> 1/2", 3/4" and 1" tabs in stock if you don't mind cutting them
down to size.
> >> The URL is HTTP://www.tapewarehouse.com. I think they're superior to the
> >> BASF tabs.
> >
> > Today's trivia question: Name the person whose surname is part
of "Editall".
> > What did he do? Discuss.
> >
> > dl
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> >> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Lennick
> >> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:36 PM
> >> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
> >>
> >> I used to be able to get those BASF dispensers from an AV distributor in
> >> Edmonton, but that was a LONG
> >> time ago (at least 20 years). Now it's whatever I can get from
Tele-Tech,
> >> just north of Toronto, and the
> >> usual half-inch dispenser and a razor blade.
> >> dl
> >>
> >> Tom Fine wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Marie:
> >> >
> >> > You are correct! It was BASF before Emtec was a glint in a
beancounter's
> >> eye. I have one with a BASF
> >> > sticker and one with a Gotham sticker over the BASF sticker. Both are
> >> running low.
> >> >
> >> > -- Tom Fine
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Marie O'Connell" <Marie.OConnell@xxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:39 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
> >> >
> >> > >I am holding one of those very 1/4 inch splicing dispensers
in my hands
> >> > > now.....BUT, the label has fallen off, so I can't tell you who made
> >> them. I
> >> > > have a feeling it was EMTEC....but.....my memory fails
me. Otherwise, I
> >> use
> >> > > the blue Quantegy tape and have it on a tape dispenser and
just cut off
> >> what
> >> > > I need with a razor blade. I think the blue is archivally more
> >> acceptable
> >> > > and least sticky than the really handy dispenser one!
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > >
> >> > > Marie
> >> > >
> >> > > Marie O'Connell
> >> > > Sound Archivist/Audio Engineer/Sound Consultant
> >> > > The Center For Oral History & Cultural Heritage
> >> > > The University Of Southern Mississippi
> >> > > 118 College Drive #5175
> >> > > Hattiesburg, MS, 39401-406
> >> > > Ph: 601-266-6514
> >> > > Fax: 601-266-6217
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> >> > > [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
> >> > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:45 PM
> >> > > To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
> >> > >
> >> > > Does anyone make/sell quarter-inch splicing tabs anymore?
I'm talking
> >> about
> >> > > the white tabs you put
> >> > > over a splice-cut on quarter-inch tape. Back in the tape
heyday, places
> >> like
> >> > > Gotham Audio used to
> >> > > give away tab dispensers at trade shows. I thought I had stockpiled
> >> enough,
> >> > > but no. I much prefer
> >> > > the tabs to regular blue splicing tape, tabs take much
less time to peel
> >> and
> >> > > stick. I think someone
> >> > > still makes sheets of cassette-splicing tabs, so do the
same folks make
> >> 1/4"
> >> > > versions?
> >> > >
> >> > > -- Tom Fine
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