Re: [ARSCLIST] The Future of RECORD Collecting - an interesting documentary

[Roger and Allison Kulp <thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx>]

Haven't read the rest of the posts yet,but I can vouch for the  fact,that sampling has done a lot to bring new/younger collectors into  the fold.I first noticed this about 2000,when I went to a  hiphop/acidhouse/trance record store.I went there,as there was a 25  year collection of promo 12" singles,mostly European issues,they were  putting out a handful at a time,at  $1-$6 each.I was introducede  to a whole new area of collecting ,granted one I personally didn't care  for as a whole,but at least 
  it was vinyl.I noticed one type of records were selling real well,  these were high quality,yet quasilegal,compilation Lps,of  obscure/lesser known stuff from the 50s,60s,and 70s,mostly  soul/R&B/blues.They were sold as "Original versions as sampled  by..."One of these labels put out a superb,pair of DCC-quality Lps of  the legendary funk-jazz group,The Pharohs. 1000 copies each.These were  previously only as private issue records,from the early 70s.There were  two kids I first met there, both were about twelve or thirteen.Ever  since,I have seen them both regularly at record shows,and flea  markets,with thier little 60s portable record player in tow.I saw a new  couple at the flea maket yesterday,doing the same thing,both about  nineteen ,or twenty.There was a huge collection we were going through.I  was picking up a lot of nice 50s country Lps,obscure garage/ R&B  45s,and lesser-known acoustic classicals,and they were looking at what  I considered unintersting rock Lps,n!
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Steve Ramm <Stevramm@xxxxxxx> wrote:  We were recently discussing the future of record collecting and formats.  
Sort of tangential to that, I watched a fascinating Documentary last night on  
DVD that I'll HIGHLY recommend to anyone with an "open mind" as to musical  
styles.
 
The film was made in 2001 and is titled "Scratch" (From Palm Pictures). I  
rented it from Blockbuster but I'm sure other video stores have it. It's about  
Hip-Hop DJs. Before you say "hey I don't like rap", let me point out that  
-except for one group of DJs who use the F word and really sound ignorant  using 
it, this is not about rappers but the history of "turntablists" who  "scratch" 
records and have been doing it since the 1970s when jazz star Herbie  Hancock 
made it "commercial" with a DJ on his hit "Rock it". 
 
What's important from collector and archival standpoint is that the source  
of much of the "sampling" is from classic vinyl records - and even SPEECH  
recordings. And the culture is HUGE! These guys - and even a female (whose dad  
wrote the "have a Coke and a smile" jingle) are dedicated. I found this  
documentary very revealing and well paced.
 
About 75% of the way in you'll see the story of a guy who goes to a HUGE  
record store in San Francisco area and is one of few allowed in the basement  
where there are more vinyl Lps stacked up than I have EVER seen. And his  
comments are revealing.
 
Anyway, I won't spend more time on this now, but will recommend that you  
rent this DVD and give it 90 minutes. Shelve your musical tastes and watch it as  
a culture thing. It will give you a new perspective on what the future of  
"records" is at least in one part of the musical culture of the 21st century  
(still hard to say that after 6 years!).
 
Steve Ramm


		
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