Re: [ARSCLIST] Cassette obsolescence - digitizing standards

[Bob Conrad <bob618@xxxxxxxxx>]

But the point everyone's trying to make is if you're going to be working 
in a 24-bit environment, then you have do do the initial transfer at 
that rate.  You can't transfer it at 16 bits and then decide later on to 
convert that to 24 bits.  There's absolutely no benefit to that, and 
actually may be worse than if you had kept it at 16 bits all along.

Best,

Bob Conrad
Fort Lee, NJ

Jeffrey Kane wrote:

> Perhaps my understanding is faulty; I'd always thought processing should be done at a higher resolution if possible to minimize adverse effects on the signal and preserve as much resolution as possible. Applying certain effects to 16 bit audio if editing in 16 bit resolution could result in loss of resolution could it not? 
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> OK...so am I understanding correctly that you are transferring through your converter into your computer at 16bit, but then importing it into ProTools for 24bit?
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> If this is the case, you're not "enhancing" the sound quality, but just using some kind of algorithm(s) in order to get a more complex file - information that was added, by the way, and has nothing to do with the original.
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> Alyssa.
> :)
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> "If someone, holding fast to the name of Bodhisattva Perceiver of the World's Sounds should enter a great fire, the fire could not burn him...If one were washed away by a great flood and call upon his name, one would immediately find himself in a shallow place." (The Lotus Sutra)
> On 20-Feb-06, at 10:08 PM, Lou Judson wrote:
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> > Interesting perspective. When I transfer cassettes for clients, I use 16 bit, and if they want it processed in any way, I import it to 24 bit Protools sessions for the added range... Best of both worlds, I like to think.
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> > <L>
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> > Lou Judson . Intuitive Audio
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> > On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Mike Richter wrote:
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> > > Lou Judson wrote:
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> > > > What about using 24 bit at 44.1 so that any noise reduction or processing done later is higher definition?
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> > > Given that the best dynamic range on standard cassettes - assuming Dolby  B in proper calibration which is highly questionable - is unlikely to exceed 60 db, one might suspect that 16 bits is sufficient. Of course, processing could consume several bits and one only has half a dozen to spare (~30 db).
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> > > For that potential, infinitesimal advantage, one is likely to spend four to ten times as much to make the transfers counting both equipment and time. Given infinite resources, a case can be made; with a budget less than that of a typical multinational corporation, such overkill is hard to justify even on theoretical grounds.
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> > > Mike
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