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Sorry--I don't have time for en extended
discussion. Let's just say that I respectfully disagree on all counts.
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The Posey Rorer Edison Recordings, Including the rejected ones
are not
only not "not so good" they are stunning and obviously
ahead of their time
for not only Edison, but for the entire country in the 1920s. Have
you
heard all of the recordings, and if so where? They are not "ancestors"
of
bluegrass, they are bluegrass music, which part of the your description
don't they fit?-Mike
>Anyone care to correct or add to my response? Thanks, Dick
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>The word "bluegrass" wasn't applied to the genre until 1953-4.
It was a
>quick descriptor for music played ala Bill Monroe, whose band name
since
>1939 had been the Blue Grass Boys. The North Carolina music of
Posey
>Rorer, the Mainers, Charlie Poole, the Hired Hands and others is a
direct
>ancestor of bluegrass. Listen to Posey Rorer's not-very-good
Edison
>records alongside the Monroe-Flatt-Scruggs outfit of 1946-7. The
>differences should be as clear as the aforementioned difference between
>Jelly-Roll Morton and Bud Powell.
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>Dick Spottswood
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>Mike Loughlin <mikel78_rpm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>For my further elucidation, what is the difference between this
>description
>and the music Posey Rorer and the North Carolina Ramblers recorded
for
>Edison in the 1920? To read Edison's rejection opinions of Rorer's
music
>is
>pretty funny. He got pretty irate and sent Rorer quickly back
to NC. I
>think two sides out of eight takes were issued. Every part of
this
>description fits Rorer's music. I am not saying he created bluegrass
>music
>either, but I think Monroe created the name "bluegrass"
but certainly not
>the music.-Mike Loughlin
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> >For everyone's elucidation, bluegrass is the name given to the
branch of
> >country music that Bill Monroe created in the mid-1940s on Columbia
> >records & the Grand Ole Opry. Normally the instrumental
components
> >include virtuoso mandolin (a la Monroe), banjo (a la Earl Scruggs),
> >fiddle, guitar and string bass. Vocally, voices are pitched
high, and
> >choruses are sung using something close to hymnbook harmony. Topically,
> >the subjects stay close to death, mother, Jesus, and dysfunctional
love.
> >Sentiments of alienation from home, God, a loved one etc. are
common.
> >
> >Artists closely associated with bluegrass since the 1940s include
Bill
> >Monroe, Lester Flatt & Earl Scruggs, the Stanley Brothers,
Jim & Jesse,
> >Mac Wiseman, the Lewis Family (gospel), the Country Gentlemen,
and the
> >Osborne Brothers. Current bluegrass (and near-to-bluegrass)
acts include
> >the Isaacs (gospel), Ricky Skaggs, Alison Krauss, IIIrd Tyme Out,
Blue
> >Highway, Nickel Creek, Rhonda Vincent. Recently Dolly Parton
has
>recorded
> >memorably in the bluegrass idiom.
> >
> >Dick Spottswood
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