Subject: Testing exhibition materials
**** Moderator's comments: Doug was tempted to withdraw this posting as being "picky", but I learned useful stuff from it and browbeat him into reconsidering, so blame me, not him. Pretty much everyone that I run into in conservation talks about the Beilstein test as being a test for chlorides and it's not quite that specific. However, if we found things with organic bromides or iodides they probably wouldn't be good either. The test isn't sensitive to fluorides so things like Teflon and Kynar would not be ruled out as bad (which is good.)(...so I'm probably splitting hairs with this posting anyway.... :^)) Let me quote from my old college organic lab text [D. Pasto and C. Johnson. Laboratory Text for Organic Chemistry: a source book of chemical and physical techniques, Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, Inc. 1979.]: "Beilstein test for halogens: The presence of chlorine, bromine, or iodine in organic compounds can be detected by the Beilstein test. The test depends on the production of a volatile copper halide when an organic halide is strongly heated with copper oxide. The test is extremely sensitive, and a positive test should always be confirmed by other methods..... A blue-green flame produced by volatile copper halides constitutes a positive test for chlorine, bromine, or iodine (copper fluoride is not volatile). Very volatile compounds may evaporate before proper decomposition occurs, causing the test to fail. Certain compounds such as quinoline, urea, and pyridine derivatives give misleading blue-green flames owing to the formation of volatile copper cyanide." I remember being warned about the possibility of sweat contamination possibly affecting the test, but it was based on conjecture and not necessarily on fact. Many of my demonstration samples I've handled without gloves and have not found any false positive results. -Doug *** Conservation DistList Instance 10:95 Distributed: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 Message Id: cdl-10-95-001 ***Received on Tuesday, 29 April, 1997