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Re: [ARSCLIST] The first direct cut and taped lps



Possibly conjecture on my part, but the clunk audible at the beginning of several of the 45 sides plus the far superior sound (even to the 78s, which were overcut on a few sides) suggested that they'd gone direct from the lacquers.

The CD issue of South Pacific (either the second or 3rd issue..I'm told there were 3 but I've seen only 2, and the first one had the faulty edit or "wrong take" in "Carefully Taught" which eliminated the line with the high note) referred to a previously unused tape master, I believe.

dl

Steve Abrams wrote:
The tapes of South Pacific were back-ups. What is your evidence that the laquers were transferred to tape for the LP issue? I know about the quality of the 45 set. When my father brought home the world's fastest changer he also bought, among other things, South Pacific, which sounded great through the 15" speaker in our Dumont television set.

Maybe, "I can hear it now" was the first set. However, the statement that "tape was in the studios in 1948" is somewhat ambiguous. I take it to mean that tape was in the broadcast studios in 1948. Everyone knows Crosby was recording his shows on tape. This leaves me with two questions for clarification. When was "I can hear it now" issued on LP and when was the first recording of music issued on LP?

SA

I think that the South Pacific tape that was used in the '90s was a copy of the original, hence the wow and flutter. Someone, Dave Weiner, I think, said this on 78l several years ago.

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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The first direct cut and taped lps


I CAN HEAR IT NOW was definitely issued from tape and the liner notes (maybe only on the 78 version, not sure) referred to this, so tape was in the studios in 1948.

SOUTH PACIFIC was recorded simultaneously on tape and lacquers, issued from the lacquers (which were transferred to tape for the LP issue). The original tape wasn't used till the 90s and sounded gawdawful..distorted and running off speed. The 45 edition, curiously, was transferred directly from the lacquers, not from the tape dub..you can hear the clunk at the beginning of several sides.

dl

Steve Abrams wrote:
Everybody knows that the first microgroove LPs were issued by American Columbia circa June, 1948. All of these recordings were dubbed from macrogrooved originals. So far as I have been able to ascertain, there were no LP recordings dubbed from tape for about another year. I believe that Columbia, HMV and RCA began recording on tape in the spring of 1949. Columbia and HMV used tape as back-up, but RCA may have used tape originals. That is one question I would like answered. Is there anyone who knows and can cite examples of the earliest issued LPs from tapes.

Another question arises. I have raised it in various places and never received an answer. If a year went by before tape came in, someone must have been tempted to do direct cut LPs. Who and when and what?

I am interested in the first LPs to be issued from tape. That is an entirely different question from the first tapes to be issued on LP.

Steve Abrams





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