Re: [ARSCLIST] Fwd: [ARSCLIST] Piston Symphony #2

[Karl Miller <karl.miller@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Piston conducted the first performance of his First
Symphony with the Boston Symphony. To the best of my
knowledge, a copy of that performance does not
survive. 

Karl
--- Roger and Allison Kulp <thorenstd124@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> What about the Piston #1 ?  Mine is probably the #1
> or #3.
> 
> I have never bothered to compile my collection in a
> database,so I can't always recall what I have.with
> my reactivated rheumatic heart disease,I am not
> about to go around lifting/sorting boxes of an
> average of 175 Lps each.I currently have other
> priorities.
> 
>                                         Roger
> 
> Kevin Mostyn <kpmostyn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I'm
> entering this exchange somewhat late. Perhaps I can
> put this subject to bed.
> 
> Please note the following:
> 
> 1. Koussevitzky did not conduct the Piston 2nd with
> the BSO (or ever, TTBOMK)
> 
> 2. During Koussevitzky's lifetime, only G. Wallace
> Woodworth conducted the BSO in that work. See the
> data for the April 8, 1944 broadcast in context at:
> 
> http://www.koussevitzky.com/Html/BSO_1944.html
> 
> (Please excuse the unfinished state of the web site.
> I'll finish it someday.)
> 
> 3. The Woodworth performance survives in several
> forms. Perhaps Roger has the OWI 4 disc (7 sides)
> vinyl 12" 78rpm set of this. I have it. See:
> 
> http://www.mostyn.com/Piston_2nd_GWW_BSO.jpg
> 
> It was also circulated by the Armed Forces Radio
> Service on 16" vinyls AFRS BSO #44.
> 
> I also have the broadcast on ABC/Blue Network 16"
> glass-base acetate linechecks, as well as a DAT copy
> of a set of Muzak 16" transcriptions, from a
> transfer that I made in the 1960s.
> 
> Please note that Koussevitzky did conduct and
> broadcast the Piston 3rd Symphony with the BSO. This
> has had a lot of circulation, especially as part of
> the Boston Symphony Transcription Trust series "The
> Art of Serge Koussevitzky." There is also a
> broadcast rehearsal as well as a private in-hall
> recording of a performance contemporary with the
> rehearsal broadcast.
> 
> Kevin Mostyn
> 
> Roger and Allison Kulp  wrote: I'll say it again,I
> cannot recall which work is on my record,and I have
> other things to do rght now,than look fr it.It may
> bethe symphony #1,for all I know.
> 
> 
>                                          Roger
> 
> Don Tait  wrote: Roger,
> 
>   Please respond to my messages with specific facts.
> All right?
> 
>    What do you have of the Piston Symphony?
> 
>   Do you have discs of a live performance recording
> of Piston's Symphony no. 
> 2 during the 1940s?
> 
>   You claimed that you did, Roger. 
> 
>   Please post the details. Koussevitzky [note the
> spelling of his name] never 
> conducted this music. YES??
> 
>   I think the collector community is always eager to
> welcome a good newcomer, 
>  but this stuff from you gives you a black eye,
> Roger. Plus your posts 
> addressing members as "silly." 
> 
>   Don Tait, who's been a collector since 1957 and
> hopes to never stop 
> learning  from his peers....
> 
> 
> **************************************
> 
> Don.
> 
> Like I said,I'm not sure if this is the #2 or not.It
> is definitely a Piston piece.If you have a database
> of all of Koussevitsky's broadcasts,you can probably
> find out what piece it is sooner than I can.I would
> imagine the BSO  has a complete recorded concert
> library,either on disc or tape.
> 
> I have a huge record collection.I am always losing
> track of stuff.I  have about thirty  records I was
> going to loan to Baylor University for their gospel
> music project.The 45s,and 78s I can locate,but there
> are six exceedingly obscure 60s vocal group Lps,on
> Song Bird and Savoy I own.These are Lps that Malaco
> and Universal have no master tapes,and in one
> case,no documentation on.That's great,but I now
> cannot find these records,and I am starting to get
> worried about it.
> 
> If you used to buy from Dave Canfield,when he ran
> Ars Antqua,you know he used to sell records like
> this Koussevitsky all the time.Now nobody does.
> 
> 
>                                              Roger
> 
> Don Tait  wrote: Roger,
> 
>   You have written before about this
> Koussevitzky/BSO recording of Piston's 
> Symphony no. 2 that you claim to have. You have been
> asked for more details 
> about it in the past, as Karl Miller recently did
> again, and you have never 
> responded.
> 
>   Please do. 
> 
>   If you have this, it is an important document, as
> I think Karl has made 
> clear. And as he has also made clear, Koussevitzky
> never conducted the symphony.
> 
>   Please give details. Please explain.
> 
>   RCA Victor's "Vault Treasures" LP series was
> introduced in November, 1956. 
> The Koussevitzky "LVT" to which you are referring is
> LVT-1016 -- Harris's 
> Symphony no. 3 and Hanson's Symphony no. 3. It was a
> conversion from Victor 
> LCT-1153. 
> 
>   Please explain about your reported recording of
> Koussevitzky/BSO in 
> Piston's Symphony no. 2. Many of us look forward to
> your response.
> 
>   Don Tait
> 
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