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Re: [ARSCLIST] Pristine's rework of Robert Johnson



Mr. Cox-
 
I believe I can see where you're coming from. Again, coming from the vantage point of someone who is about as green as green can be with most of these things, all I can say is that there's something about some of the extraneous noise that appeals to me, in a sense. Naturally, I don't want it to be overbearing to the point where I can hear far more noise than music, but a touch of it never bothered me any, but rather added something to the listening experience, for me. 
 
That isn't to say, however, that as I grow more experienced and learn more about vintage records that my opinion won't change.
 
-Ryan
 


> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:02:14 +0000> From: doncox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Pristine's rework of Robert Johnson> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On 11/12/07, Ryan Jurison wrote:> > > I generally stick to reading most of the discussions on this list, but> > this brought up some interesting thoughts for me. Now, it should be> > noted that I have extremely limited experience with audio engineering,> > and absolutely no professional experience, so I come from the vantage> > point of someone who, at this time, merely enjoys listening to vintage> > records, primarily through CD reissues. I have, however, recently> > begun collecting 78's, but am still quite new to that.> > > > With that preface in mind, I do think that having very clean and more> > modern sounding versions of these old records is sort of a mixed> > blessing. For all the increased clarity, and ability to pick up> > subtleties that might have been previously obscured by the limitations> > of records that are 70 + years old, there will be a loss of a certain> > charm. I'm 24, so I have no nostalgic feelings about "shellac noise,"> > having rarely and only recently heard it in person, but even on the CD> > reissues, the surface noise transferred over retains an approximation> > of fact, for me... you're listening to an old record on a modern CD,> > but it still sounds like an old record!> > > And what is the advantage of that?> > Personally, I want to hear the nearest thing possible to what I would> have heard had I been in the studio at the time. If I want to hear> bacon-frying noises, I can go fry some bacon.> > Of course, attempts to remove all noise will spoil the music, so one has> to tolerate some. But the music is what I pay for, not noise or> distortion.> > > Particularly when it comes to guys like Robert Johnson, Blind Willie> > Johnson, Charley Patton, and many other great bluesmen and women, the> > records wouldn't sound "right" all perfectly cleaned up, in my> > opinion. While I can appreciate the academic and otherwise usefu
what point does it> > liken to trying to photograph a child's finger paintings with a> > high-definition camera? Just my humble cent-and-a-half.> > False analogy, IMO. It is more like removing the dirt and scratches from> an old photograph. > > > > Regards> -- > Don Cox> doncox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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