Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking

[Malcolm Rockwell <malcolm@xxxxxxxx>]

I've had success in lifting a few milliseconds from somewhere else in 
the recording - usually from another chorus, or verse or bar in the 
piece -  and inserting it where the zit was excised. This is only a 
sometimes solution, though, although it's invisible when it succeeds. 
Works for both analog and digital splicing, but best done digitally, 
because with analog you'd be working from a copy. Realistically it 
should be at 15 or 30 ips, too, to have enough tape to splice!
Mal

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Tom Fine wrote:
> Hi Doug:
>
> <snip> When the needle jumps the groove like with a gouge or a big 
> vinyl zit, all bets are off because there is no underlying music to 
> mimick. I try to avoid records in that bad shape but sometimes you get 
> 'em. After years of doing this, I've come to the conclusion that the 
> most natural-sounding solution is just reduce the pop waveform to the 
> level of the accompanying music. <snip>
> -- Tom Fine
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pomeroy" 
> <pomeroyaudio@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking
>
>
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I assume the reference to "Jack" is a reference to Jack Towers.
> > He will tell you he got the oxide scraping technique from discussions
> > with the late John RT Davies. I have worked with some of John's tapes,
> > and I can report his scraping was VERY carefully done.  I have also 
> > worked
> > with some of Jack's tapes, and I have to say Jack usually took off 
> > too much
> > oxide, producing an obvious dropout; I had to fix lots of these, using
> > crossfades, or by careful deletion of part of the audible silence.
> >
> > doug pomeroy
> >
> > > From: Tom Fine <tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Reply-To: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion 
> > > List              <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:52:44 -0400
> > >
> > > Hi Parker:
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were describing. Now I 
> > > understand. That would absolutely work, but what an art form! Wow, I 
> > > wonder what Jack experimented on to learn the art.
> > >
> > > -- Tom Fine
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parker Dinkins" 
> > > <parker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking
> > >
> > >
> > > > on 7/26/07 8:06 PM US/Central, Tom Fine at tflists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But if you do Jack's method, you're left with the same problem as 
> > > > > Terry -- a
> > > > > microsecond of blank space, which is just as noticeable and 
> > > > > annoying as the
> > > > > click.
> > > >
> > > > By scraping off only the precise moment of the click, you're in effect
> > > > creating a high speed fadeout and fade-in. It's audible, but less 
> > > > annoying
> > > > than the click itself.
> > > >
> > > > There's an overview of analog and digital de-clicking at
> > > > http://www.cedaraudio.com/intro/declick_intro.html - but without a
> > > > description of manually scraping off the oxide.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Parker Dinkins
> > > > MasterDigital Corporation
> > > > Audio Restoration + CD Mastering
> > > > http://masterdigital.com
> >
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