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Re: [ARSCLIST] Disney = God?--was: The Incompetence of Sonny Bono
I Must Add...
The definative Peter Pan will always be either ( 1924 ) Betty Bronson
or (1960) Mary Martin with Ernst Torrence or Cyril Richard respectively
as Capt. Hook.
These 2 performances leave Disney's "Pan" in the dust. As much as I
enjoy the Disney version, which I do, there's just no comparison.
>>> davlew@xxxxxxxxxxxx 10/31/2006 4:05 PM >>>
Some previous exchanges on this topic:
> Actually, the Disney empire has essentially taken over any number of
> traditional literary characters! In the 21st century, we inevitably
> think of the Disney versions of Snow White, Peter Pan, Winnie the
> Pooh... and so on.
Snow White possibly, but certainly I don't think of the Disney
of Pooh or Wind in the Willows first.
Indeed, the thesis that "The Disney Version" supersedes that version of
children's tale that one sees in their own imagination is an old one,
back to Richard Schickel's book entitled "The Disney Version,"
think, in 1962. I can concur with Snow White also, but this broad
doesn't apply to everything. The book established Schickel as the
critic that he is now, and I'm not sure even he would put much stock in
idea. If anything, by now Disney has contributed as much to the realm
Fantasy stories as they have co-opted - there was certainly no "Lion
in my childhood.
But I hardly think that Disney's "Cinderella" has become synonymous in
minds of little girls with what the story means, or that their "Little
Mermaid" has overridden the one worshipped by the Danes, or that their
"Alice in Wonderland" takes the place of Lewis Carroll's book. Back in
80s, there was a publisher who designed a Beatrix Potter book replacing
of the original, lavish illustrations with generic, rounded off
of Barney-like figures as "These are the images that kids associate
characters they see on TV." And it wasn't successful - no one wanted
David N. Lewis
Assistant Classical Editor, All Music Guide
"Music expresses what one cannot say, but about which one cannot
silent." - Victor Hugo
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Disney = God?--was: The Incompetence of Sonny
On 30/10/06, Steven C. Barr(x) wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Loughlin" <mikel78_rpm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Also the idea of a young "live" girl named Alice in the wonderland
>> cartoon animation came to Disney from Dodgson's book. In > Oh
> yeah, a few years later on he did make a few million from a feature
>> length cartoon entitled "Alice in Wonderland, which I do believe
>> based on Dodgson's book, and which Dodgson's estate never got a
>> out of.
Books of these containing the original (or early) illustrations are
still in all the bookshops, and I'm sure get bought as gifts for
However, while Alice and Pooh have "official" illustrations, many
famous stories do not. In the case of the "Jungle Book", the Disney
version is so different as to be almost a new work entirely.
> Welcome to the XXI Jahrhundert...
> Steven C. Barr