Re: [ARSCLIST] Stereo records.

[Jeffrey Kane <jeffkane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I took a look at Epinions. The Yamaha had some complaints with long startup
and load times. Amazon also has reviews listed on these decks... only one
for the Yamaha, 12 for the Sony. I recommended these as I bought the Sony
for my father and the Yamaha for an uncle. Both have been very happy with
the performance although the slow load times on the Yamaha are annoying.
Still, the deck performs very well for the price. 

Other options I have no personal experience with include the Denon
DVD-1920,the Sony DVP-NS90V as well as the Sony SCD-C2000ES. I will note
that while DVD-A appears dead, SACD may yet have some life to it as a niche
format. I wouldn't invest a ton in playback hardware but it represents a
path to access recordings in a way formerly impossible (viz. the RCA Living
Stereo reissues, Mercury Living Presence reissues, etc being available in
three track stereo as well as remastered titles being available in two
channel and 5.1 channel DSD on the same disc). Were I to pick any player of
the bunch from the above, I'd probably go for the Denon. I have an affinity
for single disc players. Less to go wrong! 

Also, I forgot to mention, the ICBM is discontinued from Outlaw but can be
found on Audiogon as well as Ebay. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod Stephens
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:51 AM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Stereo records.

Thanks Jeffrey for the quick reply.
jeffrey kane wrote:

> Discrete SACD players really aren't 'done' anymore. They're all 
> 'universal' players that can do DVD-A as well. The least expensive 
> option is probably the Sony SCD-CE595 combo CD/SACD player. A good 
> universal option for not much money is the Yamaha DVD-C750.

I looked up both of these decks on epinions, and they both seem to have 
major problems, but your general information gave me a point of 
reference from which to start.

> If you're looking to go up in budget, high end SACD players get up 
> into the mid  five digits (dCS with their Verdi La Scala and Elgar 
> Plus D/A to name one). Keep in mind that on most players, using bass 
> management requires a conversion to PCM and will degrade the sound. 
> The Outlaw Audio ICBM is a great workaround for this although it costs 
> more than some players ($199)!

This unit (The Outlaw Audio ICBM) seems to have a lot to offer for the 
price with very good reviews at the web site.

Continuing my search.....

Rod

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Stephens" <savecal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Stereo records.
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> phillip holmes wrote:
>>
>>> I'm glad that I'm not imagining stereo bass.  What I have that's 
>>> really impressive is on CD and SACD.  Vinyl isn't the greatest for 
>>> subterranean bass.  And consumer R2R tape seems inferior to vinyl in 
>>> that regard. Doesn't tape roll off pretty fast below 30 Hz?
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I'd like some advice on the purchase of a SACD player.  I've been 
>> reading some glowing reports on that kind of new media sound and 
>> wonder if it's worth the price (?) whatever that might be?  Are we 
>> talking about an expensive investment and does that include a new 
>> amplifier/speaker array (mine is currently five, three in front and 
>> two surround)?  Currently, I love the wide range sound I get with my 
>> two 12" woofers, mid-range and tweeter transducers and a separate 
>> central channel and the two (side) rear speakers switchably 
>> controlled by Dolby Pro Logic (in or out).  I'm guessing I'll have to 
>> come up with a whole new discrete five to seven channel system (plus 
>> speakers) to be able to use the full capability of SACD.
>>
>> Thanks for all of the knowledgeable comments that I know will be 
>> forthcoming.
>> Rod Stephens
>>
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