Re: [ARSCLIST] Medical grade CD-Rs and gold DVD-Rs

[Jerome Hartke <jhartke@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I very much doubt that the FDA would approve the technical quality of any
CD-R discs. The web site is very vague about what "approval" means. Perhaps
the preprinted label simply contains space for information required by the
FDA for medical records.

Jerry
Media Sciences, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marcos Sueiro
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Medical grade CD-Rs and gold DVD-Rs
> 
> Thank you --this is helpful, and somewhat what I expected. I have even
> seen
> "FDA approved" medical discs listed from a company I have used, Polyline:
> 
> <http://www.polylinecorp.com/productlist.asp?OPT=850010000300001000>
> 
> Again, I am not sure what this means. Maybe, since these are pre-printed,
> it has to do with the kind of ink they use.
> 
> Thanks again for all the info.
> 
> Marcos
> 
> --On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:31 PM -0400 "Richard L. Hess"
> <arclists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > You all know that MAM-A is the company that is now selling Mitsui discs.
> > I don't know all of the corporate maneuvering that went on behind the
> > scenes, but it is still the Mitsui technology, and I think the Colorado
> > plant is the same one where Mitsui made their discs.
> >
> > I asked Joe Weisenbach of MAM-A a very pointed question:
> >
> > What is the difference (other than marketing) between the Medical and
> the
> > Archival Gold CD-Rs
> >
> > His answer: NONE
> >
> > Here is some info that might be of interest:
> > http://www.mam-a.com/technology/quality/longevity.htm
> > http://www.mam-a.com/technology/quality/durability.htm
> > http://www.mam-a.com/technology/technical_papers/index.html
> >
> > Here is their description of the difference between regular gold and
> > archive gold:
> >
> >> What's the difference between Standard MAM Gold and Archive Gold?
> >>
> >> They are both produced on the same production lines, but the Archive
> >> gold is the "cream of the crop." We always sample from production to
> >> test quality, and sometimes the quality is exceptionally high (of
> >> course it's always within our specifications). At these times we
> >> pull the gold product, sampling it at a high frequency to ensure
> >> it's consistent high quality. This is what becomes Archive gold..
> > from: http://store.mam-a-store.com/standard---archive-gold.html
> >
> > In the store site, medical points to the same page as above.
> >
> > In the non-store site, here is the link to the medical page:
> > http://www.mam-a.com/products/medical/index.html
> >
> > Note that this direct-sales store Web site (better prices are available
> > through dealers) shows $1.35 each for bulk regular gold and $1.60 each
> > for bulk archive gold.
> >
> > I would also like to point out that MAM-A has finally come out with a
> > gold archival DVD and some of the information at their Web site looks
> > promising as to longevity: These are shown at $2.99 each.
> >
> > <http://www.mam-a.com/products/dvd/Archive_gold.html>http://www.mam-
> a.com
> > /products/dvd/Archive_gold.html
> >
> > I am in the process of switching to the Archive Gold CDs (as I use up my
> > regular gold CD stock) and am already using the Archive Gold DVDs.
> >
> > While any product can fail to meet its predicted life expectancy, let's
> > hope that these are better than most. So far, I have been pleased with
> > the products from Mitsui and then MAM-A.
> >
> > Note: I do have a financial connection with MAM-A. I pay them money,
> > through their Canadian distributor, for their discs (who sells them to
> me
> > for less Canadian Dollars than the MAM-A Web site).  In Canada, talk to
> > Bruce at Precision Sound in Toronto, and I enjoyed buying from
> > www.am-dig.com when I was in the U.S.--just links for better pricing.
> For
> > example, the archive gold at am-dig is $1.10 per disc in bulk.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Tape Restoration Seminar:    MAY 9-12, 2006; details at Web site.
> > Richard L. Hess                   email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Aurora, Ontario, Canada       (905) 713 6733     1-877-TAPE-FIX
> > Detailed contact information:
> http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm
> 
> 
> 
> Marcos