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Re: [ARSCLIST] The waltz (was Which U.S. orchestra recorded first and Arthur Fiedler)
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- From: Lani Spahr <lani_spahr@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:32:28 -0800
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Hello all -
I thought I'd chime in here....
--- Karl Miller <lyaa071@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Which reminds me of those who attempt "historically informed"
> performances...
I'm a professional oboist who specializes in period performance (with
Tafelmusik, Boston Baroque, Handel&Haydn Soc and many others). I play
copies of instruments from 1650-1805.
> yet,they are amongst the first to dismiss documents
> like Nikisch and d'Albert performances of Beethoven.
Actually most of the people that I work with are fascinated with ALL
performances from earlier times. I would say that the truly open-minded
amongst us don't think that we have the "grail" at our personal
disposal. In fact, last evening a colleague and I spent an hours
listening to oboists from 1903-1953 (a 2 CD set that I engineered) and
marvelled and lamented at the playing styles that have been lost in the
last 50 years. We also were discussing recordings of the 20s by the
Rosé Quartet and how wonderful they were.
It could be that the attitudes Karl noted existed early on in the HIP
movement but I think by-and-large they don't now. I'm not saying that
everyone I work with thinks this way, but most of the ones I know are
fascinated by all historic performances. I think the days of the
militant HIPsters and essentially gone but you can still find a few out
there.
Well, you might say, why don't you play like that? Well that's another
can of worms to be opened at a later time but it basically has to do
with the instruments we play - essentially, you CAN'T play like that.
The instruments won't let you. Oh, sure you can impose a different
style on your instrument, but then what's the point of using the old
instruments then? We need to let the instrument find its voice and then
play it that way. When that happens you find yourself playing in a very
different manner. Not "better" (or "worse"), just different.
> musicological
> musician will dismiss the rubato of those performances as
Musicological musician?? :-) An oxymoron?? :-)
Cheers,
Lani Spahr (who still loves a good portamento)
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