Re: [ARSCLIST] Question re DuoDisc records

[David Lennick <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

It had better really be worth it! Oh well....I once spent a couple of days
transferring and editing and joining a 6-inch paper-based disc that had been
bent in half. This was in the reel-to-reel days and the finished result must
have had a splice every couple of inches.

dl

Steven Smolian wrote:

> You may be able to get some of it back by putting a bit of vasolene un the
> underside of the lifted sections- just a bit.  You can then line up a groove
> and, if it becomes too discontinuous, you can slide it over a hair.  Record
> what you are playing on a hard drive and paln to do considerable editing.
>
> Steve Smolian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Question re DuoDisc records
>
> >A lot of these very thin aluminum home recording discs are flaking, and not
> >just
> > DuoDisc. RecorDisc (orange label), Presto orange label (too bad, those
> > were made
> > by a professional company but they're just as prone) and others. As for
> > DuoDisc
> > being "quiet", any I've ever seen over the last 50 years have been so
> > warped and
> > bumpy, noise level was generally way down on the list of
> > attributes..getting
> > them to track was more of a problem, and this was in the 50s when they
> > couldn't
> > have been more than a few years old and you wonder how new ones were ever
> > flat
> > enough to be recorded on in the first place.
> >
> > There have been attempts made to re-attach flaked portions, but be aware
> > that if
> > the disc is flaking, the surface material has already shrunk and the
> > grooves
> > will never line up completely.
> >
> > dl
> >
> > David Lewis wrote:
> >
> >> Yes - I am familiar with DuoDiscs. These are cheaply made,
> >> instantaneous-cut
> >> discs. The first "homemades" I ever owned were a pair of these given to
> >> me
> >> by a family friend thirty years ago. What the correspondent calls "vinyl"
> >> is
> >> actually the lacquer coating on the outside of the aluminum center, and
> >> if
> >> it is already peeling there is little hope for it.
> >>
> >> This is a pity - Duodiscs have fairly quiet surfaces for homemades, but
> >> it
> >> appears most of the ones I see nowadays are on their way out - it appears
> >> 90
> >> per cent of them are flaking off. And these always seemed so durable,
> >> unlike
> >> steel-base Carr-O-Tones and others which rust and usually prove
> >> unplayable
> >> anyway. As there are no established standards for handling these records,
> >> it
> >> is hard to know what to do to preserve them. The standards may well
> >> arrive
> >> too late for most DuoDiscs.
> >>
> >> My advice - record the non-flaked-off portions at a very slow speed 2 or
> >> 3
> >> times, speed up the results and edit what's left together. You may get
> >> different grooves to play on different passes.
> >>
> >> David N. Lewis
> >> Assistant Classical Editor, All Music Guide
> >>
> >> "Contemporary composers, and at least a considerable number of them,
> >> explain
> >> what system they used, in what way they arrived at something. I do not do
> >> that. I think that the matter of the way by which one arrived at
> >> something
> >> is, for the listeners, unimportant. What matters is the final result,
> >> that
> >> is the work itself." -Grazyna Bacewicz, 1964
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> >> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joel Ackerman
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:47 PM
> >> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Question re DuoDisc records
> >>
> >> Am asked the following question:
> >>
> >> Are you familiar with those "DuoDisc" type records?  They have an
> >> aluminum
> >> center (substrate) and a thin coat of vinyl (I think) on top of the
> >> aluminum.  I believe they are records people made home recordings on.
> >> Anyway I have two (or three) of them and the vinyl is peeling off the
> >> aluminum.  I was wondering if you knew anything about, perhaps, repairing
> >> the peel?
> >>
> >> Looking at photos, it appears that the vinyl is coming apart - cracking
> >> and
> >> heading towards eventual peeling off,.
> >>
> >> Suggestions welcome.
> >>
> >> Joel Ackerman
> >
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