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Re: [ARSCLIST] Audio storage on external hard drives
I would repeat my earlier comment that any media should be periodically
retested, and its contents transferred if degradation is observed.
J. Hartke
Media Sciences, Inc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steven Smolian
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:37 AM
> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Audio storage on external hard drives
>
> My original comments concerning using external hard drives for long-term
> storage still hold. All responses here seemed about frequent short-term
> usage. How will they work after not being used for, say, 15 years, a not
> unusual period of time between placing audio into an archive and bringing
> it
> out for retrieval. I'm still dubious indeed.
>
> Anyone have experience firing up a computer after a 15 year period of
> inactivity?
>
> Steve Smolian
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard L. Hess" <ArcLists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Audio storage on external hard drives
>
>
> > At 06:12 PM 2/21/2005, Scott Phillips wrote:
> >>Richard,
> >>
> >>..are you using RAID disk technology for storage, and if so , what RAID
> >>level ? This certainly is a consideration....
> >
> > Hi, Scott,
> >
> > Welcome to ARSC List!
> >
> > If I had more money, I would be using RAID, but the costs of doing that
> > right now are higher than the approach I've taken.
> >
> > I use ViceVersa Pro to automatically sync the work folders that new
> stuff
> > goes in, and I use Ghost to grab a snapshot of the operating environment
> > on
> > each of the PCs.
> >
> > So, in essence, my system will be close to a RAID 1 (full mirroring),
> but
> > separated by two brick walls and 20 feet.
> >
> > Ideally, each of the two stores would be RAID 5, but that is much more
> > expensive.
> >
> > I'm using a LaCie Ethernet Disk as my basic NAS box and I am trying to
> > order a second without paying an arm and a leg penalty for being in
> > Canada.
> > They are 0.5TB native with two 250G drives in it. I have four Maxtor
> 250GB
> > "One Touch" external drives that will be two on each in the final setup.
> > Right now, all four are on one LaCie and are being mirrored in that
> > configuration.
> >
> > The nice thing about the Ethernet Disk is the firewire port. I can add a
> > LaCie RAID array to it to replace the Maxtor drives at some point.
> > http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10595
> >
> > The Ethernet Disk itself is at
> > http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10587
> >
> > So, no, I'm not using RAID officially, just the concept of full
> mirroring
> > of one NAS store into the other.
> >
> > It's possible to lose things, but not much will get lost. The sync is
> done
> > nightly. Some items are cloned the first time to the mirrored store, but
> > are not updated. Samplitude changes the date and time of some of the
> files
> > without actually changing the file. Since I edit in virtual mode or make
> > new files when I edit WAV files, I don't ever do destructive editing on
> > WAV
> > files, the original version of each file name is kept in the second
> > mirror.
> > In this way, I'm guarding against corruption of the WAV file. I do the
> > same
> > with Nikon RAW images. I might lose my parameter adjustment, but I don't
> > lose the raw capture. I also do that with JPEGs from the other digital
> > cameras, so if someone edits and crops the image, I back that up in one
> > place, but keep the original camera JPEG someplace else.
> >
> > So for audio, the VIP files (the virtual projects) will be cloned and
> I'm
> > looking into keeping a complete daily history snapshot of these as well.
> > These are the ones that hold all the edits and they are small.
> >
> > It's all rather complex and rule based, but it needs to be. When one
> > person
> > is dealing with the IT from the audio business, finance records, email,
> 2
> > kids' homework, image files from five digital cameras operated by four
> > people, and soon a good slide scanner, the data just piles up. I can't
> > afford to manage it manually, all I can do is monitor the automatic
> > management. Oh, and the second LaCie won't have any public shares. I'll
> be
> > running ViceVersa Pro on it in "pull" mode and it will be a "dark box"
> on
> > the network other than my ability to remote desktop into it behind my
> SPI
> > hardware firewall. I'll either push stuff out of it if needed or set up
> > one
> > share to drop files into, but I think no share is better.
> >
> > I've spent about fifty hours this week on the backup. Nice thing about
> > having the flu--everything else was too annoying.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > Richard L. Hess email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Vignettes
> > Media web: http://www.richardhess.com/tape/
> > Aurora, Ontario, Canada (905) 713 6733 1-877-TAPE-FIX
> >
> >
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