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Re: [ARSCLIST] cataloging question



Brandon,

I'm glad we could help.

maybe you could do DVD-description...

In file naming we don't use media info, but direct relation to the unique
identifier from our clients, or generate a unique identifier if the client
doesn't have one.

FYI...

Our internal Audio Database has 50+ fields, video 60+, and Image/Document
40+

We share our data with our clients for them to update and correct their
standard/older databases.

I'll include my last email to you since I don't think it made it to the
list... if anyone in interested...

Claus.

..............

Brandon,

For what it's worth the general definition of DVD has in my line of work
turned to be Digital Versatile Disc rather than Digital Video Disc.

If a DVD is data I would use versatiledisc rather than videodisc, due to the
fact that it could be any data.

If authored as Video use videodisc, and if authored as DVD-A ... Hires
audiodisc. (CD Lores audiodisc)

As, for searchable fields you can get as "crazy" as you want... For Audio
you can look at the "Producers and Engineers wing of the recording academy"
definitions from their recommended recording documentation.

I have tried to attach it to this email.... not sure if it will make it to
the list.

Good luck,

Claus.

Claus Trelby
Managing Engineer/Partner

XEPA Digital
1137 Branchton Road, 19-N-3
Boyers, PA 16020-0137
www.xepadigital.com
ctrelby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
P:724-794-3686
F:724-794-3292
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-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Brandon Burke
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:49 PM
To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] cataloging question


First of all, thanks for the replies.

Secondly, I'm worried that the tone of my first post leaned toward
ignoring the nature of the information stored on the disc.  And I
didn't mean to do that.  In fact, that was the impetus for my question
in the first place.

It seems that the "videodisc" designation is flawed in more ways that
one.  Certainly any number of files (and file types) can exist on a
DVD-R but I'm worried about about using two, three, or four altogether
different descriptions for the same physical item within the same
database.

In other words, I'd prefer to rely more on the structure of the
carrier than the files they contain, though I mean not to ignore
completely the latter.

Again thanks,
Brandon


On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:22:44 -0800, Mike Richter <mrichter@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> At 02:44 PM 1/27/2005 -0800, Brandon Burke wrote:
> >Friends,
> >
> >I am in the middle of defining fields for a database of audio (and
> >video) holdings.  I am trying to base as many physical description
> >tags as I can on AACR/IASA standards but I am not sure how to handle
> >sound files that have been saved as data on a DVD-R.
> >
> >For instance:
> >* a DVD would usually be a "videodisc" but the contents in this case
> >are audio files.
> >* the contents, despite being audio files, are saved as data--in other
> >words, one cannot simply pop the disc into a player and hear the
> >matreial.  So do they qualify as "audio"?
> >
> >I'm inclined to call it a "videodisc" simply because the carrier is a
> >DVD, regardless of the contents.  Details as to the disc's contents
> >can be fleshed out in an open text field such as "Summary" or "Notes".
> >  I should also mention that, since this is a database and not a MARC
> >record, I'd prefer not to have exceptionaly long phys description
> >chains a la "1 sound tape reel (20 min.) : analog, 15ips, stereo, 1/4"
> >tape."
> >
> >Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> I am not an archivist and am a librarian only in that I have collections
of
> my own. Still, let me point out that there is an a priori definition for
> the medium itself which may provide guidance.
>
> DVD-Video is a specified video standard playable in video devices (settop
> players, DVD-ROM drives) subject to constraints on rights and regions.
>
> DVD-Audio is a specified family of audio standards playable in some
present
> devices and probably more generally playable in the future. Where CD-DA is
> a fixed standard, DVD-Audio implements a range of sample rates and
> compressions.
>
> DVD-ROM is a format in which data files are stored on a DVD. Those files
> may be video, audio, or neither - or any mix of those. Even if all have
> video content, I would not recommend calling the disc video; even if all
> are audio, the disc is not DVD-Audio.
>
> Further complicating the matter, one may put data and audio files onto a
> DVD-Video without violating the standard. In fact, most DVD-Video discs
> have a folder for audio; it may be part of the standard, though discs
> without it have given no trouble in any player I have used.
>
> Mike
> --
> mrichter@xxxxxxx
> http://www.mrichter.com/
>


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Audiovisual Specialist
Hoover Institution Archives
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-6010
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